Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Review

http://pc.ign.com/articles/832/832795p1.html

I am thinking of getting this. The multi player may be interesting.

Paladin wrote:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/832/832795p1.html

I am thinking of getting this. The multi player may be interesting.

I'm intrigued, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. 🙂

I gotta read more. I'm, of course, interested to hear how this compares to BF2.

It was way too arcady for me. There is a demo out, or at least there was.. it's one of those games that is scripted, plus if you hold the mouse button you will kill everything.

graphics are great, but game play lacked...

Demo didn't have multiplayer, though, maybe it's way different

Bubbaspanky wrote:
It was way too arcady for me. There is a demo out, or at least there was.. it's one of those games that is scripted, plus if you hold the mouse button you will kill everything.

graphics are great, but game play lacked...

Demo didn't have multiplayer, though, maybe it's way different

Yeah, the COD's were all somewhat arcadey, but fun as far as single player goes. I wonder if the multi-player is different. I'd guess not. . .but the description in that review is interesting enough to want to read more.

I'd say it may be ok in SP, but MP, not so sure. At the moment we're abit swamped with new MP games.

Crysis demo is a must tho. It played very well on my old piece of crap. Can't wait for it to come out.

lexx wrote:
I'd say it may be ok in SP, but MP, not so sure. At the moment we're abit swamped with new MP games.

Crysis demo is a must tho. It played very well on my old piece of crap. Can't wait for it to come out.

Yeah I enjoyed Crysis demo as well.

lexx wrote:
Crysis demo is a must tho. It played very well on my old piece of crap. Can't wait for it to come out.

The Crysis demo was out? No one told me! We need to start threads guys!!!!!

Was it a SP or MP demo?

/forums/gaming/crysis-beta-4793/" target="_blank">http://forums.gamersradionetwork.com/index...3&hl=crysis

Bubbaspanky wrote:
/forums/gaming/crysis-beta-4793/" target="_blank">http://forums.gamersradionetwork.com/index...3&hl=crysis

I somehow missed the first part as it was just a casual mention. Sorry about that.

no worries just letting you knwo we did talk about it. I have spent alot of time talking to Sarge about it

Bubbaspanky wrote:
no worries just letting you knwo we did talk about it. I have spent alot of time talking to Sarge about it

Despite that, I still have yet to download and play it 🙁

Paladin wrote:
I somehow missed the first part as it was just a casual mention. Sorry about that.

Yah it was very casual 🙂 I also heard about it at SnF's last week, and everyone there has about the same hardware I have... older than a year. I was shocked how well it run, and damn the SP really leaves you hanging.

Just grab it off of usenet. I also saw COD4 demo there yesterday as well.


13 days and counting ......

lexx wrote:
Yah it was very casual 🙂 I also heard about it at SnF's last week, and everyone there has about the same hardware I have... older than a year. I was shocked how well it run, and damn the SP really leaves you hanging.

Just grab it off of usenet. I also saw COD4 demo there yesterday as well.
13 days and counting ......

Aren't the demos available anywhere else?

Why get things off Usenet you don't have to? It just opens you up to another trojan and virus to get into your system. I get stuff there, but only when I have to, and only if I REALLY have a need for the program.

DocJon wrote:
Aren't the demos available anywhere else?

Why get things off Usenet you don't have to? It just opens you up to another trojan and virus to get into your system. I get stuff there, but only when I have to, and only if I REALLY have a need for the program.

I've not had any problems. Its up to 4x's faster, no logons, no damn waiting in lines with limited bandwidth, and just look for RE:'s associated with it. If there is a virus or trojan, there will a dozen Re:'s warning about it.

lexx wrote:
I've not had any problems. Its up to 4x's faster, no logons, no damn waiting in lines with limited bandwidth, and just look for RE:'s associated with it. If there is a virus or trojan, there will a dozen Re:'s warning about it.

Yeah, usually if it's there for a couple days and no warnings are up, it's OK. . .still, if I don't NEED to get it there, I try to avoid it. Just one more way to keep your system clean.

Bubbaspanky wrote:
no worries just letting you knwo we did talk about it. I have spent alot of time talking to Sarge about it

You could always start a new thread with the title, Crysis Demo Is Out, you know..... 😛

See, now we are talking about Crysis in a COD 4 thread, so it's going to get lost as well.... 🙁

Atomm wrote:
You could always start a new thread with the title, Crysis Demo Is Out, you know..... 😛

See, now we are talking about Crysis in a COD 4 thread, so it's going to get lost as well.... 🙁
About Multiplayer
no thanks....

to quote from the immortal movie 'half baked'

FU FU FU you're cool FU

😏

About Multiplayer

As you gain levels, you'll earn access to new weapons, scopes, and perks. On top of this, you'll find dozens of challenges for each weapon, which open up further augmentation options...

All of this creates a robust challenge system that encourages gamers to keep COD4 in their system so they can continue to plug away online. It's like Pokemon with bloodsplatter -- gotta earn 'em all.

no thanks....

DocJon wrote:
Yeah, usually if it's there for a couple days and no warnings are up, it's OK. . .still, if I don't NEED to get it there, I try to avoid it. Just one more way to keep your system clean.

I wanted to add something here, and I didn't want it to go unnoticed, so I'm replying instead of editing, so it will show as a new post.

I've found viruses in files that have been up for days, but no one had warned about. It's not foolproof. Hell, I've found viruses on legit sites whose files are screened for viruses, where many others had DL'ed it and I was the only one to notice, having to argue to get the the site-owners to recognize the problem.

You'd better be confident that your warning/protection softwares is top-notch if you're gonna get more programs than necessary from newsgroups. . .and from what I determined a couple months ago when I was doing all the formatting/reinstalling of XP (and reading security forums) - almost no one's is top notch. EVERY anti-virus has holes, it will miss some that others will catch, and most will false-positive the occasional file where others won't.

Use Comodo BOclean as a backup to your anti-virus. It will help, but it's STILL not 100%.

I run AVG anti-virus, and BOclean has caught some things it missed. It's not an anti-virus, but there is sometimes a difference of opinion on what a type of malware is between programs, so it may catch a stray virus or 2. It's more for "trojans, spyware, keyloggers, rootkits, pseudorootkits, hijackers, adware, annoyware, email relays, spam proxies, spam relays, scam downloads and email/spam robots", according to it's website, and it seems to be worthwhile.

The thing about being malware-free is, it inspires confidence where there should be none. I'll cruise for months, or a year, without a problem, regularly updating my anti-virus and such, and be virus free. Then, one day, suddenly I'll have a virus. My computer will act oddly, and I won't be sure exactly when I got it. That's because it was a day like any other, and I had no warning. Anti-malware measures will fail.

None of it is 100% effective. Minimize your risk. Use Firefox and Noscript. Get your downloads from legit sites as much as you can. Run a firewall and anti-virus, and use the auto-update feature. Backup regularly. Use BOclean.

Just because you were malware-free all this year doesn't mean you'll be malware-free tomorrow.

DocJon wrote:

Just because you were malware-free all this year doesn't mean you'll be malware-free tomorrow.

Oh I hear ya Doc. I have the 'Jack jumped over the candlestick' routine really bad. I just don't have the viral problems you get. I think I get more protection because I'm also running behind the router firewall, as well zonealarm and Agp. I have two kids on the same router that get hammered with spyware, but AGV seems to catch everything they could have trouble with.

Its just easier and FASTER, and alot more efficient for me since I only have 768k down. It also lets me circumvent fileshack sites which I abhor.

I just put an old Asus P4 in place an hour ago as a server just for newbin. I'll add your suggestions to it for sure. 99% of everything I get from usenet are tv shows anyways, and I doubt any company reps are going to infect their own demos.

My theory is a server will draw the cpu usage off my game computer for SP FPSers, not to mention may isolate virus's until checked and passed down the network path. I only wish it had more than 256k ram. Damn old Rambus limitations again, heh.

lexx wrote:
Its just easier and FASTER, and alot more efficient for me since I only have 768k down. It also lets me circumvent fileshack sites which I abhor.

I just put an old Asus P4 in place an hour ago as a server just for newbin. I'll add your suggestions to it for sure. 99% of everything I get from usenet are tv shows anyways, and I doubt any company reps are going to infect their own demos.

File Planet is evil. EVIL!

I doubt company reps are gonna infect their demos too, WHICH IS WHY I GET THEM FROM AN AUTHORIZED DOWNLOAD SITE. If you get 'em from the newsgroups, can you really be sure someone hasn't accidentally, or purposefully, infected it?

Anyway, as you said, "I don't have these problems." 😀

For now, anyway. 😱

I haven't had this much fun playing a FPS since Desert Combat and I actually enjoyed the single player which I never play. The graphics are incredible and the online play comes in multiple variations and was alot of fun last night. ITs kind of a cross between CS and Battlefield2 but that description doesn't do it justice.

What is the unlock situation like? It sounds like a new player will be behind at a disadvantage.

Is the bunny hopping a problem like it was in the first two COD's?

EasyJesus wrote:
I haven't had this much fun playing a FPS since Desert Combat and I actually enjoyed the single player which I never play. The graphics are incredible and the online play comes in multiple variations and was alot of fun last night. ITs kind of a cross between CS and Battlefield2 but that description doesn't do it justice.

Are you talking about Crysis or CoD4???? The thread got hijacked so I have no idea now 🙂

His description doesn't fit Crysis, so it has to be CoD4.

Just a quick jump in here - I bought COD4 early, some thoughts.

After playing for 2-3 hours I feel that CoD4's single player campaign lives up to the old Infinity Ward campaigns. I'm about a third of the way through the campaign and it's excellent. The game play is excellent, they've gone beyond the cinematic present in CoD2 and really took it to the next level. It feels like you're actually living an intense movie.

When I finished training and entered the first real mission, I'll be honest, it felt a little repetitive and didn't bring much to the table that set it apart from previous CoD games, or FPS games in general. But that idea changed fast, by the end of the first mission the adrenaline was pumping. The third mission makes you feel like you were dropped straight into Blackhawk Down and brought all kinds of action. Like I said before, the cinematic are intense.

Now the BAD NEWS.
Online bites - hard.

I have been able to play online Team Death match.
Initial impression is that I'm not yet ready to uninstall BF2 any time soon.

It was way too hectic for me to figure out WTF. So I just plodded along and tried to kill as much and as fast as I could. And that's team Deathmatch in a nut shell Kill or be killed quickly - no team play just run and gun and run some more.

The online play for Enemy Territory Quake Wars (Demo) is more my style of play, and by far more fun.

I'll play more single player (great stuff) then try Headquarters online later.
But my initial impression of 45 min of online was not good nor fun.

I have the distinct feeling that I bought $50 worth of pretty Americas Army.
Both Headquarters and Search and destroy game types are very VERY AA esque.

When you die there is no re-spawn until all your team is dead or the team objective is reached or the map time runs out (15 min)
VERY frustrating and absolutely no fun for a novice.

I really wanted to have a BF2 replacement and hope that COD4 would be it. After I complete the single player mode, it's off to eBay for this game and I think I'll get the full copy of ET|QW

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Upgrades, you have the ability to upgrade types of weapons, then unlock classes (breacher with C4 and shotgun and Sniper class as an example) Then in those classes you can add silencers, *note camouflage and dark green color schemes are upgrades to the guns too (oooooo) These upgrades stay prevalent as long as you stay on a server. Leave a game and start all over again.

Some upgrades give you new explosive options, such as an undermounted grenade launcher (AKA The N00b Tube), C4, or claymores. Most, though, enhance your skills. Deep Penetration allows your bullets to maintain more velocity through objects, making it easier to kill enemies through walls; UAV Jammer makes you invisible on radar when an enemy launches a satellite; Martyrdom lets you drop a grenade when you die so you can take your enemy with you.

Kill three enemies without dying and you earn the ability to launch a UAV tracker that briefly displays enemy locations on your radar. Kill five and you can call in an air strike to a specific location on the map. Kill seven and you can bring in an attack chopper that circles the maps, cutting down any enemy it sees. Deaths from the latter two air support calls add to your total, so you can get some ridiculous streaks going. Once you earn the chopper, you get no further assists until you die and the kill counter resets.

All in all - if you have played ANY CoD online games in the past - this is the same play type / feel while it looks great there is no team / squad / group game play its run - run - run - die - run - die - die again - die some more - ru-die you get the idea.

The online experience is NOTHING like BF2 or ET|QW in my opinion.

Duck wrote:
The online experience is NOTHING like BF2 or ET|QW in my opinion.

OK then, that's the end of my interest! Thanks for the info Duck. I figured the single-player would be good, but if the on-line play sucks that much, I'll wait until it hits $19.99, and consider it for the off-line game.

Not too much has stepped up to dethrone BF2. Quake Wars is the first, best attempt, IMHO. Still not good enough for my liking though.

Duck wrote:
All in all - if you have played ANY CoD online games in the past - this is the same play type / feel while it looks great there is no team / squad / group game play its run - run - run - die - run - die - die again - die some more - ru-die you get the idea.

The online experience is NOTHING like BF2 or ET|QW in my opinion.

Hehe, thats the only thing I'd be looking for, run . shoot . die. 🙂

I'm such a loner. The only thing I look for in a game today is if its different than Bf2, not similar. There only seems to be one option for me anymore 🙂

Thanks for the info Duck. 🤘


12 days and counting 🙂

Thanks for the info Duck - Excellent rundown. Looks like COD has continued their grand tradition of creating an awesome single player game and crappy MP.

I'm going to disagree with Duck here on the multiplayer. The death match perameters are set by the server , you can have single death matched and unlimited. I enjoyed headquarters also, it reminded me alot CTF. The weapons unlocks are not a big deal, you upgrade and get different perks but nothing that lets you overpower the field or vise versa. I couldn't wait to get home from work and jump back online today, I've really enjoyed it so far and there is alot of other positive feedback while playing from the other peeps. Make sure you try a few differnet servers for each type of match play so you get a good feel for it. This is a good one!

<off topic> Holy crap DUCK and EJ in the same day???!!??? EJ missed you in Pirates!!!! </off topic>

Yeah COD has never impressed me, this one even less so

Have you guys tried Crysis? you should all try it. I like TF2 alot, but Crysis may be the game to replace BF2

Bubbaspanky wrote:
<off topic> Holy crap DUCK and EJ in the same day???!!??? EJ missed you in Pirates!!!! </off topic>

Yeah COD has never impressed me, this one even less so

Have you guys tried Crysis? you should all try it. I like TF2 alot, but Crysis may be the game to replace BF2

Stranger things may never happen Bubba...LOL
Yo EJ good to see your still alive - if not slightly char broiled...

The company I play for (Combat Studios) was hired to be the Alpha and Beta testers for Crysis ~ I could not get too much out of it when run with full servers (my system is just barley up to snuff fr it) but in a test mode looking for bugs and such with just three or four people it was fun. They did a good job on it, but for me to really play it - I'd need a whole new PC.

Joes' clan is big in to CoD and it looks like a 50 % split on like / dislike of CoD4 - but all agree it feels JUST LIKE CoD2 online - if that helps. Again not for me.

The thing about CoD that I liked in the past was playing it at the lan. It was slower, tended to be more ranged, sneak and attack type play where as online was hop, hop, hop, shoot, shoot, shoot. I hated it.

I did like the Search and Destroy game type, but the engine left me wanting more BF.....

Saw this info this morning:

RPS wrote:There are many good things about Call of Duty 4. This is the best. Throughout the game, you collect various pickups, in the guise of laptops containing enemy intel. Collect enough and you can unlock hugely silly cheat modes, such as grenades becoming cluster bombs or the colours being inverted (which is really not pretty).

The real prize is ragtime mode, which turns everything sepia, speeds the game up by 20%, mutes all the sound and then adds a frantic 1920s plinky-plonk piano soundtrack. Modern Warfare becomes Buster Keaton movie:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=549

There's a cool little vid in the article as well.

lexx wrote:
Hehe, thats the only thing I'd be looking for, run . shoot . die. 🙂

I'm such a loner. The only thing I look for in a game today is if its different than Bf2, not similar. There only seems to be one option for me anymore 🙂

Yes and THAT is a damn shame that is!!

BTW BF2 is still the best game ever made. So far anyway.

This appears to be a run on topic.....
I know some of you have ET|QW - overall how is it?

I have a ball with the free demo - but how is the full game?

Duck wrote:
This appears to be a run on topic.....
I know some of you have ET|QW - overall how is it?

I have a ball with the free demo - but how is the full game?

I would say that overall it is fun, although for me it is not a BF2 killer. I think the maps are beautiful for the most part and I like the GDF weapons/vehicles other than the flying ones (I cannot fly with a keyboard to save my life). The Stroog weapons confuse me, but that's likely because I haven't used them that much. The thing that gets tedius for me is the fact that the multiplayer is completely linear and to me that limits your strategic options to pretty much a head on assault in most cases. You have to do A before you can do B, etc...and so the enemy is all waiting for you with weapons hot at A because they don't have to try and defend anything else.

I have not played the game since before they patched it a couple weeks back however...

👈

I'm a bit disappointed, but it is a very well designed game. I can't fault anything there.

I need to play it a bit more to learn the maps better. Maybe then I'll enjoy it more.

Bubbaspanky wrote:
<off topic> Holy crap DUCK and EJ in the same day???!!??? EJ missed you in Pirates!!!! </off topic>

Yeah COD has never impressed me, this one even less so

Have you guys tried Crysis? you should all try it. I like TF2 alot, but Crysis may be the game to replace BF2

Haven't tried Crysis yet but I liked Pirates 2, the only problem was there was never anyone online to play with. I'll check gamershell.com for the Crysis demo but you guys can have Quake Wars, to each is own I guess. I'm bummed you guys aren't in to COD4, I thought for sure it would be a hit with this crowd.

Sold my CoD4 to someone in Joe's clan up in Canada this weekend.

Used the $$ to buy ET|QW - Much better for me than CoD4 - While I'm still bumbling around in off line mode to get to know the maps, it's what I was looking for with "4" and did not get.

Hey, I thought they would string you up in your neck of the woods for sending stuff to Canada? 😈

Feel free to play on our hardly used server, More Cowbell. :-)

I have QW too. Hopefully picking up COD4 this weekend. We just got a 24 slot server up and running to. =VF= will be playin it tonight.

If anyone's interested. . .

Call of Duty 4 is on sale at Circuit City - $39.99, free shipping.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.as...MVIEWTMP=Linear

Can't say I wasn't warned.......the aimbotting and Chams (seeing through walls) hacks are all over the place. You can tell by the kill cams who's hacking and most of the replies when you call them out are ,"So, everones doing it." What a bummer, I had alot of fun with this game but its getting almost impossible to find a good server.

EasyJesus wrote:
Can't say I wasn't warned.......the aimbotting and Chams (seeing through walls) hacks are all over the place. You can tell by the kill cams who's hacking and most of the replies when you call them out are ,"So, everones doing it." What a bummer, I had alot of fun with this game but its getting almost impossible to find a good server.

Which game? ET:QW or COD4? I thought it would be too early to hack both those. PB protected, yeah right.

I'm going out to buy UT3 in a few minutes. Wonder what protection the UT3 engine is providing. Its been a top secret for months.

I hate cheaters in games like these.. or any MP PvP games for that matter. It brings the game to a low spot that is hard to get around, no skill or fun just point and click.

i have this game an its freaking sweet. the game play and control is amazing!!! team deathmatch ftw!!!!

I'm hearing some very good things about the multiplayer for this. Many of the guys in =VF= and [CAT] are playing it a lot right now. I've also seen a few people who didn't like it at all. I wish there were a multiplayer demo to check it out..... 🙁

Sarge wrote:I'm hearing some very good things about the multiplayer for this. Many of the guys in =VF= and [CAT] are playing it a lot right now. I've also seen a few people who didn't like it at all. I wish there were a multiplayer demo to check it out..... 🙁

Hey GRB 🙂

We do have COD4 server setup and I'll give you some of my impressions. I'm coming from a gaming style that does not like what I call "twitch" gaming. I'm not into Quake, UT and other twich-games. I prefer a more methodical game sorta like the capture the flag games I played as a kid...with all the weaponry, etc. I'd say =VF='s heart is very much in the Battlefield series.

This said, we're finding appeal with COD4. It is sort of like BF1942's Berlin and Stalingrad: infantry heavy, in-your face gaming. You don't have a mech walker around you, nor a tank and its just "man to man". We play it alot like the aforementioned BF maps.

We have found, much to our disgust, that the Quake roots of the COD4 engine are a poison pill for the COD4 community. There are a lot of hacks or simply config file tweaks that we discourage as we prefer as even a playing field as we can make. I've setup the server to check for popular 'performance enhancments" to the config file and am tweaking it to permit only your basic in-game graphics settings to work.

I've also found about 9-12 cheat files - .DLLs, etc. - that are popular amongst the cheaters. Quake cheats seem to be readily adaptable.

I've seen a in-game speed boost caused by manipulating the engine in a pretty esoteric way and that was described to me as "every Quaker player knows about this, its just defensive action". From the other side of the gun, the player is moving abnormally fast and 'skating'.

So the game has its ups - great graphics, fun solid mano-a-mano infantry action, but the community is really the downside.

I'm not sure where we're going to go with our server. Enough of us have and really do enjoy the game. This weekend, for example, the server was open to the public. After one clan joined, 'nade spammed for 3 maps and told us to kiss their *ss when asked to not stack an another started voting =VF= members off our server, we have a bad impression currently of the COD4 community. There is a reason, for example, our CS:S server is locked! Maybe that's needed with the COD4 server too.

Right now, the server is locked. Stop by our forums at www.verticalfinger.com and ask, GRB are considered friends and you guys are welcome in the server anytime. I hope that additional anti-cheating measures as well as ultimately "breaking" the ranked status and tweaking the server to our liking (lots of flexibility here in the engine!) and keeping it small (12 or less) will make it unattractive to the wrong sort of player.

Hope this helps 😉

Thanks Strum!

I think what you are finding with the COD4 community is what we found when we dipped our toe into the Quake Wars community. Of course I think most of the BF2 community is the same way as illustrated by the nightmare that is the PlanetBattlefield forums now. I hope that the Frontlines community does not go the same way since it is a quake based game as well.

Sounds like a cool game and I really enjoyed the single player demo for a couple of nights. If I have the opportunity to get it inexpensively, I'll give it a shot.

We appreciate being on your guys friends list 😀 The NAW night that we did the other week was very fun and we are up for doing it again any time.

That's great info Strummer. How does the graphics compare to the original CoD games?

Sarge, FFoW is on the UT3 Engine. So, we don't have to put up with Quakers, just friends of Lexx. 😈

Atomm wrote:That's great info Strummer. How does the graphics compare to the original CoD games?

Sarge, FFoW is on the UT3 Engine. So, we don't have to put up with Quakers, just friends of Lexx. 😈

Doh! That's right, my bad. I'm tired today I guess....

strummer perked me up when he compared it to stalingrad and berlin on '42.... I love those maps!!! I tried the demo of COD4 and hated it.... what to do...

Ha. UT, Quake, its more-or-less the same pool of players, right?

We're looking forward to Frontlines too. Alas, but I didn't take advantage of the beta test, so I'm just going by word of mouth that its cool.

We're all wondering why the COD folks didn't bother with some serious tweaks to the engine. I understand that ET:QW has done some modifications in the interest of "realism" (yes, while you are fighting aliens with their xyrrrg guns...go figure!)

To me, one of the larger drawbacks to these old and established engines are the years of hacks developed and the fanbase that wants to use them. For the record, with our COD4 server, I've done a pretty deep dive into configuring Punkbuster and while it has some pretty cool features (scanning client filesizes and configurations) it most certainly has its downsides (up to date anyone?) If anyone at GRB needs to, come on by =VF= and PM me with questions...

I'm hoping that as we customize our server for "our" kind of gameplay, we'll attract more of the sort of gamers we'd like to have on the server. Getting rid of slots, ranks, and some weapons might go far. I figured out server messages, but I wish it had a TF2 type load screen where I can drive the undesirables off!

@Atomm - I have COD and COD2 and without having fired them up to check, I'd say these graphics are MUCH better. So much so that the COD4 community is asking for WWII mod that takes advantages of the new graphics. I have an 8800 GTS and run my settings on high and it certainly takes advantage of what the card has to offer! The main reason we became interested so quickly was that despite high graphics, it plays smoothly - sort of what we had all hoped BF2 would be!

Strummer wrote:Ha. UT, Quake, its more-or-less the same pool of players, right?

Oh pleasssse. I can tell ya haven't spent much time playing either. Thats like comparing an apple to an orange. Quakers can't handle UT, UT'ers hate being nerfed by Quake's slowass battlefield like moves and weak weapons. They are two very different types of players.

COD4 looks good in single player, but like everything else, its just nerfed in the multiplayer mode, unless you like playing DM and CTF in sloooomotion. Also seeing your post about the cheating just adds zero confidence to the game for me. I'd had enough of that with BF2 hacks and keyboard macros over the last year.

Think I'll be sticking with UT3 for a long time. I hung around all this time doing BF2 and just don't see TF2 filling in that void. Its cute and all, but the spawn times drive me nuts. With UT3 you can MOVE, its fast paced, its hard, its *FUN* as hell, and it looks better than anything else out, even Crysis. Damn shame I'm the only one here into it though :(


Sorry, I just had to vent <big grin>

Can you tell that Lexx is a UT guy????
Lexx you can goto fast spawn TF2 server just FYI

Yes, Lexx, I haven't spent much time playing either.

In the past, however, I was a huge UT fan. Played many facing towers and got deep into the TacOps mod, which introduced me to something other than "bouncing and teleporting" (no, I didn't play CS at all as I was a Mac gamer then!) I haven't looked back from keeping my feet on the ground...though I am enjoying TF2 as a "throwback" to my UT days.

Quake and ID games, on the other hand, have *never* appealed to me. I can usually tell that I'm on a Quake engine and its usually points against ;). You can, however, take RedOctober for example, which I liked and was a UT engine. To me, COD4 is a similar conversion of an engine that was designed for something else being adapted - much like RO did for the UT engine.

I'm just clarifiying it so y'all know where I'm coming from when I say that despite the Quake engine and the massive downside of the typical member of the community, COD4 has something going for it.

We're probably going to unrank our server, lower the slots and fine tune things so that folks like GRB players will dig it and the unwanted (and unwashed?) will spend time elsewhere. :)

Strummer wrote:I was a Mac gamer then!

The scary things we learn about people on these boards ;)

Hey Strummer,

I am a huge fan of the latest TO mod for UT2004. I loved playing it. In fact, I had not played CS until after playing TO and CS felt like a bad knock off to me. It was definitely an engine thing and a fun factor thing. I wonder if anyone still plays it.....

BTW, are you still involved in the BG mod?

I'm glad you guys like these type of sims. I tried aa with pal and doc on the ut engine, just couldn't get my mind around it. When your running full speed one day and the next your outta breath in 20ft, well....hells bells.

Just never had the appetite for mods the way others do. I like the game as raw as possible. BF2, IO only, small map, that is what worked for me best.

Kudos for removing ranking from COD4. I believe that to be the single worse feature in any of these games including the rpg crap. If you can get players I'm sure they will be first rate. I see COD2 is still #2 on xfires' most played weekly game list, so it definitely has a strong following.

If there was ever proof that PC games do well, that XFire listing and the fact that CoD 3 was for Console's only, then they came back to PC's... Well, that says a lot if you ask me....

lexx wrote:Think I'll be sticking with UT3 for a long time. I hung around all this time doing BF2 and just don't see TF2 filling in that void. Its cute and all, but the spawn times drive me nuts. With UT3 you can MOVE, its fast paced, its hard, its *FUN* as hell, and it looks better than anything else out, even Crysis. Damn shame I'm the only one here into it though 🙁

So my question is are you going to put in for that Physix card and get the amped up physic/game graphics that is available for UT3

Silent Cold wrote:So my question is are you going to put in for that Physix card and get the amped up physic/game graphics that is available for UT3

I don't have any plans for it at the moment. I want to see how its going to pan out. My hunch is it will fall on it ass like an expansion pack. It comes with a couple of UT levels, but f that, I'm already getting swamped with new maps and its only been out a couple of weeks.

It adds another hugh dimension to the game, but hell, the game really rocks now.

lexx wrote:I don't have any plans for it at the moment. I want to see how its going to pan out. My hunch is it will fall on it ass like an expansion pack. It comes with a couple of UT levels, but f that, I'm already getting swamped with new maps and its only been out a couple of weeks.

It adds another hugh dimension to the game, but hell, the game really rocks now.

Its been around for over a year now.. cheaper price getting dismissed by a lot doing the whole well I want to see what happens thing, but still is going strong with more and more games having support for it.

Atomm wrote:Hey Strummer,

I am a huge fan of the latest TO mod for UT2004. I loved playing it. In fact, I had not played CS until after playing TO and CS felt like a bad knock off to me. It was definitely an engine thing and a fun factor thing. I wonder if anyone still plays it.....

BTW, are you still involved in the BG mod?

Ha! I had the same response. And I still feel that the gameplay of TO was more what I liked than CS:S. I tried the current incarnation of the mod and was sadly let down...I've grown far to accustomed to modern graphics!

I am not working with the BGF mod team. Sadly, I had to let that aspect of my online "life" go...things IRL got very hectic 2 years ago with a facilities move (a fair amount of IT work) and the birth of my daughter. I tried to get back into it after the multi-mod merger and simply didn't have the patience to perservere. Of course, I'm anxious to see BGF capture some of the feel of BG42 but that will only come in time...

...back on topic...

In COD4 news , we've opened our server back up to public status. (Though you guys are welcome to the password whenever). Come by the =VF= COD4 server at 72.232.145.38:28960 anytime. We are not ranked and have implemented quite a few server-side tweaks that have, so far, kept the "quake rampagers" away or quickly disconnecting.

1. We're not ranked
2. We have FF on
3. We have removed martyrdom, doubletap, the noob tube, and the 3x nade kits. (No nade spamming!)
4. We play the 'strategic' games of HQ and Dominiation, with one quick Free-for-All thrown in for giggles
5. Our HQ spawn time has been balanced to have long activation times, long capture and destroy times to keep the action in one place longer.
6. I'm streaming plenty of PB master ban lists
7. I'm checking for plenty of cheats and client-side tweaks
8. We mention FF and Teamwork in the server name
and not the least of the items
9. We admin ruthlessly

We'd love to have any GRB players who are interested join up. We've been pretty hot & heavy since the release with 9-10pm EST into the west coast evening just about every day of the week. Friday is still our big day though. C'mon by!

Ok, you've talked it up enough. I'll check out the beta and go from there.....

Oh yeah this game kicks ass!
Don't have the time to read the 3 pages but this game kicks butt.
Good graphics! great MP option.
I bought this a week ago!
Hymen is my use name.