FNF 2/17/06

So, what do we want to do this FNF?

1. MapPack 3 on TotalBF2 server.
2. Desert Conflict - CTF
3. Special Forces
4. Vanilla

If we want to do custom maps, then we probably should start drumming up support on the TBF forums. If that doesn't pan out, I guess we can wing it.

i'm going to go out on a limb and say that I am curious how SF and Vanilla play out after the patch.

I would say customs or CTF, but I am up for anything as long as it does not involve a 64 player server. I just am lost in battles that big.

Doc, Paladin? What do you guys feel up for?

As always I will do whatever the group does

Atomm wrote:Doc, Paladin? What do you guys feel up for?

Well tonight (TH) we are going to play some DC CTF if anyone is interested. Lexx is going to play it for the first time. You guys can meet him tonight if you are free. We will pop on your TS if that is okay.

FNF wise, BF2, SF , DC CTF or CM (custom maps) are all cool with me. I will go with the majority. 😉

I noticed that you guys used to play UT2004 on TH nights. Was that with a lot of the guys that left?

May be fun to have everyone here play some UT2004 CTF or jailbreak some time just for something different. 😉

A few of the guys who left played it. But the majority of the players are actually from my old LAN group. We played all sorts of custom maps. We also played Jailbreak before the server was turned off. It's so much easier to play customs in UT. We were always mixing it up.

Should we get a new server, I bet we could get that going again.

As for Friday, how about we shoot for Custom MapPack3 on the TotalBF2 server. If that doesn't pan out, we switch to Desert Conflict CTF?

UT2k4 Atomm and I played, I think Raze did some too. I will try to hop on tonight. I ran into you and docjon last night, I saw you online. I kept getting shifted from your side though.

Paladin wrote:
Well tonight (TH) we are going to play some DC CTF if anyone is interested. Lexx is going to play it for the first time. You guys can meet him tonight if you are free. We will pop on your TS if that is okay.

Definitely hang on our TS. I will try and play tonight but I have a meeting and likely won't be home until 10:00 so I may not be able to do it.

Make sure you get the .22 patch for DC CTF


Customs sounds good for tomorrow night with CTF as a backup.

FYI, It looks like they are running MapPack 2 and 3.

Atomm wrote:So, what do we want to do this FNF?

1. MapPack 3 on TotalBF2 server.
2. Desert Conflict - CTF
3. Special Forces
4. Vanilla

Any of the above looks good, but if I had to pick one, I'd have to go with the mappack. I haven't tried any of the new maps in any of the packs.

I've been wishing EA would give their official okey-dokey on some of the community maps. . .would really inject a little life into things. I guess they plan on charging us for all the new official maps(sigh).

See you Friday Night, I'll probably be on around 7:30 EST (best guess).
-DocJon

DocJon wrote:

Any of the above looks good, but if I had to pick one, I'd have to go with the mappack.  I haven't tried any of the new maps in any of the packs.  

I've been wishing EA would give their official okey-dokey on some of the community maps. . .would really inject a little life into things.  I guess they plan on charging us for all the new official maps(sigh).

See you Friday Night, I'll probably be on around 7:30 EST (best guess).
-DocJon

That is because you are a point whore! 😉

You now have your rank so should not care anymore. I should care more than anyone about ranked servers as I have crap for points. I need them more than anyone. I simply cannot play as much as you.

Really though, who gives a shit if it is ranked. F-EA with that! As long as people can run servers and do whatever they want, that is fine by me. 😉

If you can get the people on the servers I feel unranked ones sometimes are better as people are now playing for the love of the game instead of whoring points. It is harder to get people on those though and that is sad. The game should be about more than just points/ranks.

On the other side of the coin, having points does add to making people want to help you in the game. This is kind of sad really. “I won’t play medic unless it gives me more points” type of attitude. I am in a good/bad mind set of the whole thing, I see good and bad points to both sides. I do like custom maps and mods though, fun shit 😉

Another reason to look for a good clan is finding people that are willing to NOT get points or kills for the sake of the squad. I have a hard time finding people that are squad leaders that are willing to stay back a bit to others can spawn on them. It is hard to find support or medics to stay back and not jump into the meat of the action all the time. What good is a dead medic? Also squad leaders need to send orders and keep the squad informed of what to do or where to go next. The members also have to do what they say and try to play together. Squads need to stay together!!!! It seems hard to find people that play the game correctly as it were.

I wish you had been on last night Paladin.

We squaded up and it was a blast. We had four guys. Sarge was the Squad Leader using Support. I was the Medic. Drix was Special Forces and Goahed was AntiTank. We had a blast.

I know for a fact I have played squad leader on CTF and set back while my squad tries to take the flag. Sarge has also done that on several occasions. Yea, it's hard because you want to get in the action, but if you take turns each round, everyone gets a chance to fight and it's more fun because of TeamWork.

As for the medic. I don't totally agree. Here is why. Let's say you have a squad of 4. 1 is the Squad Leader. He stays back and uses the Support for supression fire. 1 is Anti Tank. 1 is special forces. 1 is Medic. The trick to this game is numbers. You want 3 on 2, especially if those 2 are Assualt because they have the weapons and armour advantage over the other classes. If you medic does not fight, the odds are against you winning.

If the medic dies, as long as the other two take out the 2 enemies, they can either grab his pack and bring him back that way or he can respawn on the squad leader. Either way, A medic should be the third guy in the line on an attack.

Another thing about Medics. If I am playing MEC, I always take a medic and I am very aggresive. The reason is the Medic gets an AK47 that does good damage and is fairly accurate. In close fights, I can stand toe to toe with Assualt. However, if I am US, I take my unlock weapon and tend to stay back a bit, but I still fight.

Anyway, just some food for thought. We all play slightly different. The trick is working together with the things we are good at, while supporting the team.

Don't forget to get MapPacks 2 and 3. Also, keep in mind that the patch may have messed up the customs. I'm trying to find out which version the server is running. If it's the old version, I say we move on. Rollback of patches SUCKS!

Wow, I think I am going to cry.. Someone that understands tactics... wow...
<wiping tears from eyes>
😉

Man that sounds great, you have some stuff worked out! I did not mean for the medics to not play in the action, sorry. I meant ones that run around shooting; not really playing medics because they die so much so what good is a dead medic you know 😉 If you got game then that all changes. 😉

I agree with what you said. Usually we make the SL medic or support and when Medic is for tossing out med packs more that revival thinking people can just re-spawn. So if the SL is not too far or hidden we can run back, grab a med kit (or ammo) and continue on. DocJon and I used that trick and it worked well in a push type map.

DocJon and I tried to get our old clan to use some tactics which is one of the things we want and were/still are looking for. It was hard for them to really work together sometimes. Kind of makes it fun when you do you know 😉

DocJon even ran around some maps in single player getting good ideas on sniper positions and exits etc…We used the ATC program to work some stuff out. You guys familiar with ATC at all?
http://www.foolishentertainment.com/index....sp?p=3&s=1&c=39

Nice little program that gets everyone on the same page tactics wise.

I am not the greatest player by myself so need a good squad and some tactics to back me up you know.

Looking forward to tonight. Looks like we should be on after 8 or so EST.

You don't even want to see our tactics sections for BFV - it's embarrassing how much time we spent trying to come up with good stuff to use for 8v8 (only to get pooned by helos) and 5v5.

I've seen the ATC before, but haven't ever really tried to use it.

I should be on around 9:00 EST

Sounds great.

You probably haven't seen him around, but EverClearBoy is an amazing Tactition. He ran a tank training event for us back in 42 on Forgotten Hope. It was amazing what we learned.

Isn't ATC the tactics mapping program for games? I think I remember seeing something like it for 42 a long time ago.

One other thought on the medic. A point I was trying to make, but failed to was about the most important role for the medic. It's also the reason I feel the Squad Leader should be support rather than medic. The medic's most important job is reviving the squad leader if he is killed. That is the one person you do not want to die. Everyone else on the squad can get back into the fight within 15 seconds, but the squad leader has to spawn and hoof it back.

For the most part, I am a casual player. I don't take the game too seriously and I try to have fun. However, it's fun to work as a team and use tactics to win a game, even if it is on a public server. With the new patch and having you guys around, I am excited about playing BF2 again.

Atomm wrote:Sounds great.

You probably haven't seen him around, but EverClearBoy is an amazing Tactition. He ran a tank training event for us back in 42 on Forgotten Hope. It was amazing what we learned.

Isn't ATC the tactics mapping program for games? I think I remember seeing something like it for 42 a long time ago.

One other thought on the medic. A point I was trying to make, but failed to was about the most important role for the medic. It's also the reason I feel the Squad Leader should be support rather than medic. The medic's most important job is reviving the squad leader if he is killed. That is the one person you do not want to die. Everyone else on the squad can get back into the fight within 15 seconds, but the squad leader has to spawn and hoof it back.

For the most part, I am a casual player. I don't take the game too seriously and I try to have fun. However, it's fun to work as a team and use tactics to win a game, even if it is on a public server. With the new patch and having you guys around, I am excited about playing BF2 again.

We are casual as well so do not panic thinking we are some great BF2 tactics nerds or anything, far from it 😉

We just have a hard time trying to get guys to do simple things like
have the squads stay together and fight together. Get commanders to give orders and pay attention to the map. Get the SL's to keep giving orders so the squad knows what’s up and have everyone SPOT! Just that alone makes the game great.

DocJon and I just played too many games when our teammates ran off in tanks and shit (especially in the beginning of a round) without even giving us rides let alone trying to fight together and use some tactics TOGETHER! Man, trying to get some guys to form different squads and have them do different things like take a copter to a back flag or destroy the enemy assets is just a bitch. Most people just want to run to the nearest flag and attack and that’s it!

Will be cool to play with some good guys for a change! Sounds like you guys have an above average IQ and that alone makes me like you 😉

I have no real patience for idiots these days 😉
Well I put up with DocJon because he is my friend 😉

Now to get a bunch more guys to join up and get a server that we can play on in the evenings on other nights as well and we would be all set 😉

I agree with the medic BTW.

LOL!

Ok, I am guilty of running off from time to time. :twisted:

And sometimes you get caught up in the heat of battle and focus in on something while the rest of your squad takes off. It's not perfect, but we do try....

One of the things that we discovered about BF2 is sometimes it can be more fun to defend a flag rather than trying to run around capping other flags. I can't think of the map name, but the one with the TV Headquarters in the back. We defended the little flag closest to the MEC uncap for a whole match one time. It was awesome! It's amazing how many people don't even think about flanking.

Oh well. Tonight should be fun.

I'm probably the "Rambo" of the group. Just not good at stayin alive.

Sorry, just got home, Just started the download. got about 20 minute wait.

Sorry I didn't make it tonight... I imagine Sarge didn't either. I was without power all day and just got it back now. It was an aweful cold night for no heat (20 degrees).

I got on early, then had some family things come up. I usually don't miss Friday Nights. Wish I could have been there.

Never a problem man. You could have said goodbye though when you signed off TS. 😉

DocJon and I probably can play tonight if that is good for anyone.
If not catch us in Xfire! 😉

I am 1paladin there.

Paladin wrote:

DocJon wrote:

Any of the above looks good, but if I had to pick one, I'd have to go with the mappack.  I haven't tried any of the new maps in any of the packs.  

I've been wishing EA would give their official okey-dokey on some of the community maps. . .would really inject a little life into things.  I guess they plan on charging us for all the new official maps(sigh).

See you Friday Night, I'll probably be on around 7:30 EST (best guess).
-DocJon

That is because you are a point whore! 😉

You now have your rank so should not care anymore. I should care more than anyone about ranked servers as I have crap for points. I need them more than anyone. I simply cannot play as much as you.

Really though, who gives a shit if it is ranked. F-EA with that! As long as people can run servers and do whatever they want, that is fine by me. 😉

If you can get the people on the servers I feel unranked ones sometimes are better as people are now playing for the love of the game instead of whoring points. It is harder to get people on those though and that is sad. The game should be about more than just points/ranks.

On the other side of the coin, having points does add to making people want to help you in the game. This is kind of sad really. “I won’t play medic unless it gives me more points” type of attitude. I am in a good/bad mind set of the whole thing, I see good and bad points to both sides. I do like custom maps and mods though, fun shit 😉

Another reason to look for a good clan is finding people that are willing to NOT get points or kills for the sake of the squad. I have a hard time finding people that are squad leaders that are willing to stay back a bit to others can spawn on them. It is hard to find support or medics to stay back and not jump into the meat of the action all the time. What good is a dead medic? Also squad leaders need to send orders and keep the squad informed of what to do or where to go next. The members also have to do what they say and try to play together. Squads need to stay together!!!! It seems hard to find people that play the game correctly as it were.

I got my 20,000. I got my TWO NEW UNLOCKS, and I now take precedence in being commander over a few more players (which as the last game on vanilla bf2 last night pointed out to us, can only be a good thing.) :leet:


-"Point Whore"

Atomm wrote:LOL!

One of the things that we discovered about BF2 is sometimes it can be more fun to defend a flag rather than trying to run around capping other flags. I can't think of the map name, but the one with the TV Headquarters in the back. We defended the little flag closest to the MEC uncap for a whole match one time. It was awesome! It's amazing how many people don't even think about flanking.


One other thought on the medic. A point I was trying to make, but failed to was about the most important role for the medic. It's also the reason I feel the Squad Leader should be support rather than medic. The medic's most important job is reviving the squad leader if he is killed. That is the one person you do not want to die. Everyone else on the squad can get back into the fight within 15 seconds, but the squad leader has to spawn and hoof it back.

For the most part, I am a casual player. I don't take the game too seriously and I try to have fun. However, it's fun to work as a team and use tactics to win a game, even if it is on a public server. With the new patch and having you guys around, I am excited about playing BF2 again.

Paladin wrote:
We just have a hard time trying to get guys to do simple things like
have the squads stay together and fight together. Get commanders to give orders and pay attention to the map. Get the SL's to keep giving orders so the squad knows what’s up and have everyone SPOT! Just that alone makes the game great.  

DocJon and I just played too many games when our teammates ran off in tanks and shit (especially in the beginning of a round) without even giving us rides let alone trying to fight together and use some tactics TOGETHER! Man, trying to get some guys to form different squads and have them do different things like take a copter to a back flag or destroy the enemy assets is just a bitch. Most people just want to run to the nearest flag and attack and that’s it!

Will be cool to play with some good guys for a change! Sounds like you guys have an above average IQ and that alone makes me like you 😉

:goodpost:

-DocJon

Bubbaspanky wrote:Sorry I didn't make it tonight... I imagine Sarge didn't either. I was without power all day and just got it back now.  It was an aweful cold night for no heat (20 degrees).

We lost power just long enough to cause my PC to reboot yesterday afternoon. A few flickers here and there during the evening and that was it.

The custom maps were pretty fun, but it was a small group.

Hopefully will be on tonight for a bit. Who knows what plans the wife has for me though...

Damn you. We were out to the point where we had to consider what to throw out in the fridge and if the pipes were going to freeze. :-) Back now though.

So, how was Friday Night?

Friday was fun. Was Raze, DocJon, Paladin and I for most of it. Some of the custom maps were fun, but the last one we played "Alcatraz" degenerated into a snipe fest. That and my pc seemed to think that the map was a slideshow :?

We switched to some 'nilla after that and Everclear and Goobar joined us and I played a couple of rounds before heading to bed. Played with Docjon and Paladin on Sat as well and Drix joined us. Ended up on opposite sides as them as often as not, but had fun anyhow.

Cool. Sorry about the TS thing Paladin. I was really tired and just turned off my computer. I'm usually not that antisocial.... Well, ummmm.... Let's just get that out of the way up front. I'm not as antisocial as say, Bubba, but I'm a close second. ;-)

Anti Social. Anti Social?? I mean come on. Ok well IRL I am a hermit, but on the computer... Ok I am anti social. But remember I can kick your ass!! I pride myself on the fact I can beat-up any former D&D player.

Bubbaspanky wrote:I can kick your ass!! I pride myself on the fact I can beat-up any former D&D player.

Be careful of what you say around DocJon. Ask him about his 87th level Magic user sometime. He was a point whore even back then. Many many nights he playing trying to reach that next level! He used to run his character around in the Inns changing peoples ears to rabbit ears and back as well as and doing coin tricks just for the extra points. It was truly sad!

hehe

hehehe

Yea, but we all know he did it for the ladies.....

:nerr:

Atomm wrote:A few of the guys who left played it. But the majority of the players are actually from my old LAN group. We played all sorts of custom maps. We also played Jailbreak before the server was turned off. It's so much easier to play customs in UT. We were always mixing it up.

Should we get a new server, I bet we could get that going again.

Nahh, I've had a private 12 player UT server for several months now. I just renewed it again for an even better price. I'll host this crew anytime you want, np. Hell, I'll even bring a few opponents along for the ride 🙂

I prefer iCTF, but anything you guys want to play plus Jailbreak would be cool. I shy away from most mods tho. Don't want to crash out the server and be screwed the next day for a match. If you want to use it for a Thurs nite bash, IM or email me a few hours in advance so I can get it ready for ya.

SeeYa

That would be cool. Would it be passworded?

Also, would you be willing to set up ZoomInstagib, LowGrav, QuadJump?

Do you have custom maps like the 2 Community Bonus Maps or the FlapPack1 maps?

Is Map Voting Turned On?

Atomm wrote:That would be cool. Would it be passworded?

Also, would you be willing to set up ZoomInstagib, LowGrav, QuadJump?

Do you have custom maps like the 2 Community Bonus Maps or the FlapPack1 maps?

Is Map Voting Turned On?

Oh yeah, we have every map used for TWL matching, plus many that are not. Could be passworded or not, your choice. Any particular map, I'd just need some time to upload it, np. The goof off server is located in NY at: http://216.128.69.224:7777 where I can setup any mutators you want for the night. The other server is in Chicago at: http://64.37.227.165:7777 . It has just TAM, iCTF, and is Safegame guarded 24/7. I can use it as long as there are no matches scheduled.

You can check your pings at both and let me know. Once I've played with you and get to know each other, I'd give a GA admin rights. I'm so lazy at setting up game nites 🙂

LOL!

I think NY would be fine if it's easier to set up. Any chance you can get it going tonight?

ZoomInstagib, LowGrav, QuadJump, CTF. No password would actually be cool. If you have Bridge of Fate, start it on that map if you don't mind.

Let me know and I'll let the other guys know. Three of them have said they would be there after Survivor. I'll be there after Survivor. :-) Bubba, think you could make it?

I have a meeting tonight, hopefully I'll be out of that by 10. I will drop in and see if anyone is there. Haven't played in so long I should suffiecently suck

Atomm wrote:LOL!

I think NY would be fine if it's easier to set up. Any chance you can get it going tonight?

ZoomInstagib, LowGrav, QuadJump, CTF. No password would actually be cool. If you have Bridge of Fate, start it on that map if you don't mind.

Let me know and I'll let the other guys know. Three of them have said they would be there after Survivor. I'll be there after Survivor. :-) Bubba, think you could make it?

I will be on tonight. Just Tivo the damn show and get your ass online 😉

Atomm wrote:LOL!

I think NY would be fine if it's easier to set up. Any chance you can get it going tonight?

ZoomInstagib, LowGrav, QuadJump, CTF. No password would actually be cool. If you have Bridge of Fate, start it on that map if you don't mind.

Let me know and I'll let the other guys know. Three of them have said they would be there after Survivor. I'll be there after Survivor. :-) Bubba, think you could make it?

Cool, I'll set up a mapvoting event to cover your picks. LG, QG? Man you want to fly 🙂 Should be ready to go at 9pm. I'll leave a message in my irc channel and forums for my troop to get ready too. Perhaps we could have a couple of scrims afterwards in standard insta?

Add V^V* to your buddy list and I'll see you all there tonight. 😀

Cool.

Yea, there are some speed freaks. I wouldn't count on a scrim. No organized action.

There are two shows I watch as they happen, Lost and Survivor. I give up watching BSG on Friday Nights. That's all the blood you are getting from me!

hehee Dork!!

Atomm wrote:Cool.

Yea, there are some speed freaks. I wouldn't count on a scrim. No organized action.  

There are two shows I watch as they happen, Lost and Survivor. I give up watching BSG on Friday Nights. That's all the blood you are getting from me!

Oh man how could ypu give up BSG????
I look forward to the SG, SG-Atalantis and BSG trio of shows on Fridays...

I am two survivors behind. I will catch up though. 😉

Well, I only give up watching it Live... I tivo it and usually watch it early Saturday.

Yea, I love SG1, Atlantis and BSG. It's the best night of Television. I would be lost without my Tivo.... :-)