TWL 5v5 Battlefield 1942 Tank Only Ladder

Saw this new ladder at TWL and thought it was a cool concept. I think that they are just setting it up as I cannot access the rule set or maps or anything. This sounds like it could be fun. I wish it was for Battlegroup42 or Forgotten Hope though. My guess is that they will use BFPro mod maps or something that adds vehicles but doesn't really change gameplay that much.

I freaking love Tanks.

We should look into BFPro. I like the fact that they added customs to the mix, even if I disagree with them on the particular maps they picked. There are deffinately some kick ass BF42 maps out there that need to be in a mod. The last 2 rounds of BF42 maps were some of the best I have ever played.

More info on the 5v5 tank ladder (from the TWL Thread):

Bascially, The 5v5 tank ladder will be pro based and we will make a BfPro 5v5 tank mappack for you. Each map will have 2 heavies (unless it's like americans vs japs) and 8 lights per side. We will make conquest and TDM versions of the maps. So the biggest question is maps really.

Maps
-Aberdeen
-Tobruk
-Bulge
-South of Caen
-Nuenen (from bfpro and ea mappack because there's like 3 nuenens)
-Giza
-Korsun
-Battle Mountain
-Fall of Berlin
-Wake (with south as axis HQ and NE as allies HQ no heavies)

Put in your opinions of these maps and if they should be or not. Add others for the reason you state. Please add reasons to your opinions as they will have more meaning then.

http://www.teamwarfare.com/forums/showthre...threadid=196134

Looks like the format will be TDM.

This ladder has started and about 20 teams have joined. Conquest rule set, BFPro mod is optional. Aberdeen map is the only one currently, but more maps are expected to be added. Basically you cap flags and take out the enemy in your tank. You are not allowed to use anything else to destroy a tank or person from the other team. I believe that you are allowed to use the wrench and the repair pads although pad camping is not allowed. Still looks interesting to me.

You are supposed to run Vexsecure on your server to use it for match play. Anyone know what this is?

Yea, it's basically an alternate to PunkBusters. My only concern is what impact it would have on on not match play.

I like the list of customs. Battle Mountain is a great map. If Fall of Berlin is the one I am thinking, then I don't like it. Other than that, it sounds pretty interesting. I'm just not sure if we can field a whole team. Do you think we could pick up a few more members for GRB to round out the list?

I think Everclear might be interested if we twisted his arm a bit. Other than that, I don't know. Let's watch it and see if they flush out the maps and ruleset a bit and see where we are at that point.

Hate to say it, but tanks bore me, so I wouldn't be in

Man, I love Tanks. Planes bore me..... :-)

*insert evil Jabba laugh here*

I mentioned to Sarge before if you guys need me to "Mercenery" for you.. I'd have no problem with that.. Sounds like it'd be fun.. though I'd have to get my Vanilla groove back since I haven't played regular since... hmm... that FnF with Peleliu n' Torch.. Pretty sure can pick apart any strategy they would try to use..

One of the best times I had was taking a group of friends here to a local LAN with teams from around the area that play regularly.. while our group played once n' awhile never trained together.. with 2 of them only just recently buying the game.. went up against some clan from Cedar Rapids {FRAG} Drew Bulge and Gazala for map play.. and we just completely dominated them on Bulge as Allies.. They never even got across the bridges or greyed the flags we were defending.. And the best part was the following round I knew they would attempt to "recreate" the defense I setup.. sure enough they started to do so but My Tiger caught their Sherman & engy setting up the mines on the bridge taking them both out and we just completely brokethrough their line.. it was awesome.. so much fun.. we broke even since it was based on tickets and time.. 15 minutes is far too short for a round on Bulge. Breakdown of the map is like this.. with 15 minutes worth of time and the ticket bleed as it is.. you have about 2-3 "pushes" you can make in that amount of time. after the 3rd.. impossible to win in that timeframe.) It was still a really great time and a lot of the guys were pretty proud about beating up an experienced clan.

So if you guys need my help just let me know..

cool. It's always nice when a strategy works out, isn't it. Occassionally that happens for me as well.

Yep!

Though why on earth would they pick Fall of Berlin.. I don't really consider that a tank map..they should replace with something like Kasserine Pass or Tundra.. I think Tundra works as a BG42 map as well?

I don't think they are going to use all of those maps, most I think were just suggestions. They were trying to stick with vanilla maps or BFPro maps, although I am not sure what the difference is between the two exactly. Currently Aberdeen is the only official map, but they have someone working on some modifications to a couple of the BFPro maps to add tanks so that there are at least 5 available on each side. This is where BFV's custom combat would be really helpful as you could replace jeeps, planes and helos with tanks very quickly and easily.

I would love to learn how to use BF's map editor to make custom maps but I don't have enough time to read some of the real technical stuff.. I fiddled with Battlecraft briefly but it just didnt seem too "user friendly" It reminded me of the days when I used to build maps for the old.. and classic I might add Marathon series with Phforte.. Having to know this that and the other to pull everything together compared to the simplicity to building a Warcraft Map. With the World War LAN's we do here every 6 months it would be great to have "tweaked" normal maps so that if one side wins the following map is changed such as they get extra equipment.. or perhaps some area's are destroyed giving a team a greater reason to win a map. Maybe once BF2 comes out I'll take a look at its map editor and hopefully it's a bit easier.. the work you guys do on those custom maps though... Kudos goes out to that!

Well if you decide to pick it up, we have some of the best here. LoU, Raze, Breaky, and Hitpawz have all done some wild stuff with the BF map editors and I am sure would provide a great tech support team to bounce stuff off of.

I tried making a map maybe once or twice. I have the ideas for a couple of good ones, just not the talent and the patience with the map editor 🙂

I'm with you on that! I fall asleep reading the instructions to setting up a Geocities website.. Z ZZ zzZ zZ

I was thinking about custom ladders, I wondered what kind of ladder I would be good at. I decided they need a smacktard ladder, then I could bring GRB to the glory land!!

heh why is it your a smacktard? What is it you tend to excel at or even better enjoy doing in the game?

I'm a hardcore Tanker.. but in the same respect.. I'll pilot if I have to.. love to be the eye in the sky scout.. and surprising to most love doing transport roles of every flavor.. My weakness is not the best flakker.. not a great sniper.. (though I once got first place on a server playing only as sniper as Allies on Omaha of all maps.. capturing the most flags with a decent KDR.. it was... sad) Not a pro with the Bazooka.. Excel at setting up ambush.. use of Command Tanks such as the Tiger.. use of Heavy Bombers.. Booby traps.. Sneaking in general.. Excel at Distracting the enemy.. "Bait n' Rape" Most say they avoid the Tiger because it draws the attention of the entire enemy making them set on killing you.. Think about how useful.. and manipulative that can be..

Just take a look at what it is you love doing in the game most.. and work on that and you won't think of yourself as such a "smacktard" As long as your not 6 feet away from a flak gun.. shooting a mustang flying over head with your handgun instead.. Your not one in my book!

What are you talking about? The best kill I ever got in my life was taking out a plane with a single shot from my handgun. :-)

Seriously, it was smoking really bad, coming straight at me, so I aimed for the engine and took a shot. I'll be damned if the plane didn't blow up. 😛

heh.. was the pilot's response something like..

OMfG JoO H4x0rZzZ!!!

It was pretty funny seeing Atomm Colt Plane on the screen. :-)

I don't think he was suprised. I have a feeling it was one of those cases where there was no health left at all. It was one of those things that I never expect to happen again.

heh.. happened with me on a map of Bocage.. I was running over the bridge toward the middle.. look up and see a B-17 so I started to shoot it with my Walther.. next thing I know it smacks into the Windmill and I get 3 Kills each displaying walther heh Gotta love lucky moments like that... I miss the days when you could kill a pilot thru the exterior of the plane