UT2004 and Chaos mod.

Okay guys, we talked about this before. We are going to try to get an UT2004 night going again.

We are going to play the Chaos mod with it. It is totally silly, weird and a lot of fun.

If we can find some pubs, we are good to go. If not, I can run the server on my one computer. We did it before with 6 or so people and that was DSL speeds. With FIOS I have the 2mb upload speeds which should be plenty for it. DocJon and I will get it set up if need be.

Chaos Mod available at:
http://chaotic.beyondunreal.com/

Anyone interested or not?

I have been trying to fine UT and they dont carry it here any more. I could get it on the economy but it would be all german and well I spent more time in Iraq than I did here so my Deutch sucks. I'll be home in 1 more month anyway. OOOOOO I cant wait. 😀 😀 😀

I'll give it a whirl. Trying to get the mod downloaded now.

Sorry, I hate that mod. Pass

lexx wrote:
Sorry, I hate that mod. Pass

You just hate it because I shoot you 500 times every round with the poison arrows.

I figured out that if you can't see straight, you can't shoot me.

lexx wrote:
Sorry, I hate that mod. Pass

Oh come on, it is all in fun. You have to get away from your "I cannot do anything that will affect my SERIOUS play" attitude.

Can't you just do something just for the fun of it? 😉

Nah, I still stop in pubs for TAM and TDM unlike either of you. Chaos messes with my game too much, and I really don't like it. Have fun though. If you wanna do real weaps, I'm always game for that.

If ya wanna mess up a game, look into screwing up Q4. I'd be game for mods on that engine where it doesn't matter the next day 😉

DocJon wrote:
You just hate it because I shoot you 500 times every round with the poison arrows.

I figured out that if you can't see straight, you can't shoot me.

Ya I remember those, and I also remember those ballsbie little bombs you like to toss out that chase you all over a map. Another prob with Chaos is once you quit it and enter a safegame the next day, several chaos files get flagged as potential cheat files, and you gotta nitpick through your setup to weed them out. Another time it caused my entire UT install to go sour.

I love you guys, but chaos is a bit too much to ask 🙂

I think those are fair reasons Lexx.

Ok, I downloaded the umod. How do I install this thing again?

lexx wrote:
Another prob with Chaos is once you quit it and enter a safegame the next day, several chaos files get flagged as potential cheat files, and you gotta nitpick through your setup to weed them out. Another time it caused my entire UT install to go sour.

I love you guys, but chaos is a bit too much to ask 🙂

I can't really give you shit for those reasons. . .dammit! 😛

Atomm wrote:
I think those are fair reasons Lexx.

Ok, I downloaded the umod. How do I install this thing again?

Well, if you have a good install of UT2004, you should be able to click on the .UMOD file, and Windows should know what to do with it.

crap

Atomm wrote:
crap

google umod extractor for a small extracting util. Otherwise 'open with' and select c:/ut2004/system/setup.exe . That should get you going.

You should not need an extractor though. Just DL and run the .umod like you do an .exe file. It should "install" it for you.

I am getting a runtime error when I try to open with UT.

I'll look for the extractor.

I know I've used these in the past with no problems. argh!

Atomm wrote:
I am getting a runtime error when I try to open with UT.

I'll look for the extractor.

I know I've used these in the past with no problems. argh!

Patches and alot of mods play hell with umods. This is a common problem, thus why extractors were written. They work well too. Often I'd use this method to seperate files to upload to my server.

downloaded and installed. Haven't tested it yet to see if it works, but it is installed 🙂

Atomm wrote:
I am getting a runtime error when I try to open with UT.

I'll look for the extractor.

I know I've used these in the past with no problems. argh!

If you can get a zip file of the mod just dump all the files into one directory. I wrote a small batch file that will copy all the files dumped in one directory, to the proper place's for the game. If you want it, let me know.

Hell I will just put it here now 😉


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UTMOVE: Get it code below (NOTE: Download the .txt file or copy paste the text into a .txt file then rename the file from utmove.txt to utmove.bat before use)

I was sick of wonderig where some of these files from all the non .umod zips I have been downloading go. Or I am just sick of dragging and dropping all of these files to each folder so I created this batch file. Not all zips have proper paths and this is faster :-)

SETUP:
To set up the batch file just edit the first line (set game="c:\games\ut2004") of utmove.bat to point to your own UT2004 game folder.
Manually create two folders in the Ut2004 game folder; "Text" and "Screenshots" This will copy the .txt files and .jpg files into those just so they have a home. :-)

Just stick the utmove.bat file along with all the files from all of your Zips into a temp directory. When they are all there just double click on utmove.bat from that folder. The batch file will move all the files into the proper directories under your game folder you specified when you edited that first line.


================CODE=================
set game="c:\games\ut2004"
REM Edit the above to point to your game folder.
REM
REM UTMove.bat by Jace AKA Paladin
REM 02/23/2005
REM
REM
REM ****DO NOT EDIT BELOW HERE
echo Moving files...Please wait...
REM
move *.ut2 %game%\maps
move *.upl %game%\system
move *.u %game%\system
move *.int %game%\system
move *.ucl %game%\system
move *.ini %game%\system
move *.utx %game%\textures
move *.ukx %game%\animations
move *.usx %game%\staticmeshes
move *.uax %game%\sounds
move *.oog %game%\music
move *.ka %game%\karmadata
move *.uvx %game%\saves
move *.xml %game%\speech
move *.ifr %game%\forcefeedback
move *.jpg %game%\screenshots
move *.txt %game%\text
REM
echo ALL DONE!!!
pause

Thanks for posting that Paladin. I grabbed the UMod extractor last night. I think everything is set up. I'll try to check it out sometime soon.

Dunno if there is a current version, but you may want to run that wedge allowing traditional weaps alongside the chaos ones.

Also since I doubt you can find a public server, add this to your ut2004.ini so everyone doesn't get hung up on some little quirks involved in serveractors...:

[IpDrv.HTTPDownload]
RedirectToURL=http://uz2.gameservers.net/ut2004/
ProxyServerHost=
ProxyServerPort=3128
UseCompression=True

Also be sure to add :

ServerActors=
ServerPackages=

according to the chaos mod directions. If you don't do this, everyone will be stuck downloading packages from your server.

Have Phun 😛

DL went smooth and install went smooth. When I activate it it gives me an error saying the UT2004.exe has a runtime error. I tried it twice now. I will re-DL the full one one more time just in case but I doubt it will help.

Anyway I am out for tonight I guess.... Have fun.

BTW do not use my batch file unless you add the correct path for chaosut2 under the game folder. Actually be carefull with this one in general. Just unzip it to the correct path.

Is that bit for the client side lexx? or for a server?

I'm getting the same runtime error when I try and start the mod....

Sarge wrote:
Is that bit for the client side lexx? or for a server?

I'm getting the same runtime error when I try and start the mod....

That was for the server if Paladin was going to run it from home. Without it everyone gets stacked up downloading whatever is in the ut .ini file like chaos.u or jailbreak.u server actors locally, instead of using the public redirect. Those lines will fix that problem.

This is why I didn't want to mess with chaos. Seems many mods lately are haveing conflict issues with the last UT patch 3369. I had a devil of a time with UTXMP and decided that was enough of that crap. Can't really blame Epic as the game is over 3yrs old now, and they are only working on 07'.

A simple workaround is to back patch to 3335v, but that is a pain as well. Better of course is for the mod authors to actually read the UT patch release notes and cautions. Mod authors seem to test less than EA 😉

Test less than EA?????? Is that even possible???? 😱 😄 hehe

I am getting a runtime error as well... Sorry Paladin, we tried.... 🙁

I liked that XMP stuff.... Any servers out there?

Atomm wrote:
I am getting a runtime error as well... Sorry Paladin, we tried.... 🙁

I liked that XMP stuff.... Any servers out there?

well crap. I was hoping to play Chaos. I've played it in the past and absolutly loved it.

Atomm wrote:
I am getting a runtime error as well... Sorry Paladin, we tried.... 🙁

I liked that XMP stuff.... Any servers out there?

Atomm, my Windows didn't know what to do with a UMOD either when I went to install it, . I went and found a program that would allow me to extract the files, but I looked at it and realized there was a lot of opportunities for me to mess up the install, so I went looking again.

I found a program called UTregfix. It's in German, but there isn't much to know. Run it, click OK when the German gibberish comes up, browse to your UT2004 directory, and then click on "Speichern" to fix the Umod registry entry.
UTregfix-German:
http://www.ego-creations.de/scripts/download.php?DownID=18

Alternately, there is another program that may be in English, but I didn't try that one - the German one fixed my issue.
http://www.pseudorandom.co.uk/2001/paradox...egFixer-1_1.exe

After using these programs, Windows should know what to do with a UMOD. Don't panic if nothing appears to happen at first when clicking on a UMOD. It can take it awhile to show you anything on-screen.

This is where I found out about these programs:
http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/wiki/UMOD/Problems

If you tried to do a manual install, you might want to fix the UMOD settings in the registry with one of these programs and try the standard UMOD install again. I don't think even Paladin's nifty batch file (I've used it many times,and it works great) will put all the files where they should go when you're installing a MOD. It's more for skins and maps, IIRC.

DocJon wrote:
Atomm, my Windows didn't know what to do with a UMOD either when I went to install it, . I went and found a program that would allow me to extract the files, but I looked at it and realized there was a lot of opportunities for me to mess up the install, so I went looking again.

First try right clicking the file and see if there is an option at the top to INSTALL THIS 2004 MODULE. If so do it 😉
Second you can rename the extention to .ut4mod, windows should recognize that.

Third no need for weird utilities. Just right click and select 'open with' on the .umod. Select setup.exe from the list. Also select the always use the selected program for this file type.

That should fix the reg entry.

DocJon wrote:I don't think even Paladin's nifty batch file (I've used it many times,and it works great) will put all the files where they should go when you're installing a MOD. It's more for skins and maps, IIRC.

Do NOT use my batch file for mods!
In this case everything has to go into a ChaosUT2 sub directory. I am unsure if the batch file will work or not( it may with the correct path) but I KNOW it won't without this extra location. If you did it without editing it to point to this sub directory you will hose your UT install by overwriting original files.

My batch file is more for installing new smaller maps and skins for the original game, not mods. SORRY about that one. I should not have posted it I guess..

Paladin wrote:
Do NOT use my batch file for mods!
In this case everything has to go into a ChaosUT2 sub directory. I am unsure if the batch file will work or not( it may with the correct path) but I KNOW it won't without this extra location. If you did it without editing it to point to this sub directory you will hose your UT install by overwriting original files.

My batch file is more for installing new smaller maps and skins for the original game, not mods. SORRY about that one. I should not have posted it I guess..

Oh yeah, definatey keep these things in thier own seperate directories. That way you can get rid of them alot easier when your finished with them, or if they cause you problems. Just make sure you have all the path= statements correct in UT2004.ini to find the mod directory.

If you have problems connecting to diff gametypes later down the road, be sure to check your system dir closely for .udl and .u files that may make Safegame or UTcomp think you are a hacker. This is now the prefered method of cheating to piggyback code onto modded weapons and player skins.

Paladin wrote:

Third no need for weird utilities. Just right click and select 'open with' on the .umod. Select setup.exe from the list. Also select the always use the selected program for this file type.

The 'weird utility' worked for me. and I was just trying to help

DocJon wrote:
The 'weird utility' worked for me. and I was just trying to help

No man thats cool. I was not getting on you. I was trying to help back 😉

Sometimes I do not trust those weird out of nowhere utils 😉