C64 + M$ = L0LZ!!!!1!1!1

Started by Atomm · 12 posts · 1,779 views

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    I can not believe I didn't know Commodore Basic was Microsoft Basic. WOW! Apparently, they paid a one time license for the software and built on it from there. Microsoft got screwed in the deal.

    The Commodore 128 even had a Microsoft Copyright on the screen, where as the C64 did not.

    Hmmm, anyone else ever thought a blue screen of death looks a lot like a Commodore screenshot? Is there a link? Hmmm..... That would be funny.....
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    Atomm wrote:I can not believe I didn't know Commodore Basic was Microsoft Basic. WOW! Apparently, they paid a one time license for the software and built on it from there. Microsoft got screwed in the deal.

    The Commodore 128 even had a Microsoft Copyright on the screen, where as the C64 did not.

    Hmmm, anyone else ever thought a blue screen of death looks a lot like a Commodore screenshot? Is there a link? Hmmm..... That would be funny.....

    It makes me think they learned from the experience, and applied that knowledge when they wrote for the IBM PC.

    "No, I think we'll take a cut from each copy sold, thank you."

    Wasn't that a relatively new sales model at the time?
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    N00b
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    Bubba must be in a mood. He's forming complete thoughts.....

    Bill himself coded this version.

    It mentioned that MS was a struggling little OS developer and they thought Commodore would come back for updates and they could make additional money. They didn't.
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    I miss Commodore. It was so superior to anything else for those times. Too bad they had terrible management and ground the company into obscurity. I still have an A4000 in storage. The things you could do with that back in the day....
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    lexx wrote:I miss Commodore. It was so superior to anything else for those times. Too bad they had terrible management and ground the company into obscurity. I still have an A4000 in storage. The things you could do with that back in the day....

    Heh, a 4000, huh? I never even saw one of those. I got a 1000, then a couple years later I "upgraded" to a 500(around 1989-90). I had a 40 meg HD that fit inside it - made a nice portable system. No screen, but it plugged into most TV's for a workable picture when we went to copy parties. The neat thing about the Amiga is I had one that ran at the same speed for 9 years, and except for adding memory, I didn't NEED to upgrade anything in that time (though the HD was very cool to use - 40 MEGS went pretty far back then.

    The incompetence of Commodore's management was STAGGERING.

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    I went for every upgrade I could get then. First 1000 I decked out with the expansion box on the side, added a scsi controller and the 512k ram card. Then added the 68010 chip/hack, then added the 'insider' 512 hack where you piggy backed the memory chips.

    Then I got the 3000 for the 'o30 processor with a 30meg HD. Added the video extras, then met that guy selling Amiga's down on Rt 51. I remodeled his backroom for a discount on the 4000 which was blazing with the 040 processor. I was going to start doing all the video production work for the church I was going to, but something bad happened, and that was a big waste of money.

    No wonder I try to squeeze every dime out of a computer purchase anymore. I once bought one of the Mac's for wiffy. What a hugh waste of money that was. Forget which one now, was like a iic, but she never had the patience to stick with it. Now she HAS to use two Mac's at work in her cubicle. The floor tile is worn completely out between them. Go figure ;p
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    I thought I remember something on TV about Amiga's running Epcot World for Disney back in the day. It was the most advanced CGI computer available and they had several rows of them doing different things.

    I never bought an Amiga, but I do remember drooling over the 500 at my local mall software store. I believe it was the forerunner to EB.

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    Watch Babylon 5. All the CGI done for that show was on Amiga's. It used a genlock overlay that required a crazy multisync monitor to mesh with NTSC/PAL signals. This is where Amiga went one direction, PC/Mac the other.

    Worse than management to be honest, it was the software/price. An office suite for an IBM at the time was much cheaper, and when the first person shooters came out, Wolfenstein and Quake, Doom, etc,. you had to buy a PC or stick with 3rd person gaming.

    I stuck it out to the end running both platforms, but ultimately C= couldn't woo the software designers enough, or just couldn't match MS's ability to get applications pointed in their direction.

    It was like having the best car ever built, but noone would supply fuel to run it. Frustrating.
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    lexx wrote:Watch Babylon 5. All the CGI done for that show was on Amiga's. It used a genlock overlay that required a crazy multisync monitor to mesh with NTSC/PAL signals. This is where Amiga went one direction, PC/Mac the other.

    Worse than management to be honest, it was the software/price. An office suite for an IBM at the time was much cheaper, and when the first person shooters came out, Wolfenstein and Quake, Doom, etc,. you had to buy a PC or stick with 3rd person gaming.

    I stuck it out to the end running both platforms, but ultimately C= couldn't woo the software designers enough, or just couldn't match MS's ability to get applications pointed in their direction.

    It was like having the best car ever built, but noone would supply fuel to run it. Frustrating.

    The first few years of B5 was Amiga, but I think they may have went to IBM machines towards the end. Can't remember for sure, except that the first few years were definitely Amiga.

    I think the (mis)management of Commodore is responsible for EVERYTHING. A halfway coherent marketing plan, or ANY marketing plan, would've made a bigger impact just when IBM was getting started, and more machines sold would've meant more and cheaper software offerings.

    I don't think that Commodore would've ever got the business market, but they could've been where Apple is now, or more so. If Commodore had sold more machines early on, I think the market would've been more split along business/home use lines than it is now. Shit, the Amiga was a true multi-tasking, 4,096-color machine with separate gfx and sound processors and a Windows-like interface way back in 1985!!! A bigger market penetration could've made a real difference back then, and ppl might've followed an Amiga upgrade path to keep backwards compatibility with their software.

    How they managed to screw up that kind of lead is an epic story that should be told in every business course.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga

    Edit: misremembered the 4,096 color mode as 32,768
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    Someone hold Bubba back.......