911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77

911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

VERY well done study of what happened that day.

PLEASE tell me there are no members that actually think the planes did not hit anything and it was all a conspiracy!!!!!!! I won't play with any Moore like mentality types...

If you know any idiot like this, send them to that link.

Idiots..... 😉

In all honesty, I don't know what to think. There are some things that just don't add up and when there is hard evidence to clear these things up, yet the Govt will not release it, I become concerned.

I can't watch that right now, but I will.

I'm sorry, but I did not see a plane in that footage. All I saw was someone who made a video that doesn't add up.

I'm not saying a plane did not hit the Pentagon. I'm just bothered that this is the only video we have and it is missing frames, yet there were tons of other videos all over the place that were confiscated and never released.

I just want to see the hard evidence.

Atomm wrote:
I'm sorry, but I did not see a plane in that footage. All I saw was someone who made a video that doesn't add up.

I'm not saying a plane did not hit the Pentagon. I'm just bothered that this is the only video we have and it is missing frames, yet there were tons of other videos all over the place that were confiscated and never released.

I just want to see the hard evidence.

Wow... Ummmm. well... okay... never thought I would actually meet one of you...

Anyway.....
I see the tail in the footage when they display it like that footage did. That security cam was not meant for constant capture, hence the missing frames. It explains pretty much everything that the CT's complain about. The hard evidence is there in re-enactment and stills to back it up. I am unsure what else you would need but there it is.. As for "TONS" of other footage, well that is just hearsay. If they had other video of the area I bet it is simply a matter of nothing relevant captured. I heard interviews of people that seen it first hand, cannot dispute that.

Just thought I would share.

In that case maybe you'd enjoy this one Atomm.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4WOXh8hbkI...ted&search=

NOTE PALADIN DO NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO!

(Personally this video is bull shit.)
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I've watched both Loose Change videos and they ask some interesting questions. Like I said, why release this single bad camera angle when there are better videos out there?

That's all I want to see.

As for eyewitnesses, they said three things. They saw a commercial plane. They saw a small plane and they saw a missle. Eyewitness reports are not very good as people don't always see what they think they see.

Atomm wrote:
I've watched both Loose Change videos and they ask some interesting questions. Like I said, why release this single bad camera angle when there are better videos out there?

That's all I want to see.

As for eyewitnesses, they said three things. They saw a commercial plane. They saw a small plane and they saw a missle. Eyewitness reports are not very good as people don't always see what they think they see.

I won't argue about eyewitnesses as that is very true. Everyone sees different things and you never know so I give you that. However I have heard interviews of ones that were very reliable and of clear mind in what they saw and I believe what they had to say.


I am sorry man. I honestly did not know you were a CT type.

I won't argue with you about this stuff anymore man, sorry.
It will just cause bad interactions as the truth gets in the way of your CT world views

Kidding man, it is all good. 🙂
You can believe what you like, I just won't ever agree with you 😉

Working in academia for 13+ years I am surrounded by professors who are 98+% liberal.
My boss and I get into some discussions, he is a huge lib.

I am one of I think 4 republicans that work in my building.

I am surrounded by idiots! 😉

Seriously I am not 100% right wing either.

I like Bush's foreign policy's as well as his economic ones. He dropped the ball totally on other things like immigration.
I do not always agree with Republicans, especially RINO's.

I am actually libertarian in some things.

I am about right and wrong not left and right.

I think you have me wrong Paladin.

I'm not really a CT. I am more of question what you see and hear type of guy.

Fiscally, I am a Republican.
Socially, I am a Libertarian.

I guess that makes me a moderate as I am not a right winger.

Atomm wrote:
I think you have me wrong Paladin.

I'm not really a CT. I am more of question what you see and hear type of guy.

Fiscally, I am a Republican.
Socially, I am a Libertarian.

I guess that makes me a moderate as I am not a right winger.

We are probably closer in view than I thought 😉

I thought this recreation looks to be the best senerio and explaination. It was detailed plenty for my satisfaction. Given the events of the day, who gives a rats ass if an F15 almost got it with a missle? In order to hit the Pentagon, the plane had to be damn near ground level. The clipped light poles proves that.

Attn General Olsen's wife was on that flight, and she had called him only moments before the crash from her cellphone, shreaking when the plane hit the first lightpole or treetop. I miss her, she use to do lots of commentaries on FoxNews, and she was one hell of a book writer.

Rush sez something to the effect that a moderate is just someone afraid to call himself a conservative. 😀


I have to admit, after watching the democrats torching every effort made by Bush, the house, and the senate the last few years, I'd never vote for a democrat again.

Paladin wrote:
Working in academia for 13+ years I am surrounded by professors who are 98+% liberal.
My boss and I get into some discussions, he is a huge lib.

I am one of I think 4 republicans that work in my building.

That would drive me nuts.

lexx wrote:
I thought this recreation looks to be the best senerio and explaination. It was detailed plenty for my satisfaction. Given the events of the day, who gives a rats ass if an F15 almost got it with a missle? In order to hit the Pentagon, the plane had to be damn near ground level. The clipped light poles proves that.

I have to admit, after watching the democrats torching every effort made by Bush, the house, and the senate the last few years, I'd never vote for a democrat again.

I aggree with your first paragraph at least -It probably doesn't matter if they hit the Pentagon with a missle trying to take out the plane. I would have liked them to come forward and say that though, rather than cover it up if it did happen that way. While there would be some reaction to that, I would think that the attempt and the honesty would be taken for what it was, and credit given for the attempt and the guys that made the decision to shoot the missle (assuming that it did happen that way).

On the second paragraph however, it has been the Republicans in charge of Congress for what 10 years now? And with a substantial majority in both houses in most cases iirc. The inability of Bush to get much of his agenda through the last few years is an indicator of how much of a lame duck he is and can't just be dumped on the Democrats. Very quicly after the 04 elections the previously very supportive republicans in congress started not being so supportive and having their own opinions again. In that environment of course the Dems are going to jump on that opportunity as well.

I think it's time to change out the old fixtures and spice the place up a bit.