HDCP DRM SUX!

Started by Atomm · 9 posts · 1,391 views

  1. #1
    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070121-8665.html

    Read through this article. This is where Digital Rights Management is taking us. You will now be required to do a firmware upgrade on your television due to problems playing your PS3 because the Motion Picture Association wants to make sure you continue to pay them for an outdated business model that doesn't know how to deal with digital delivery.

    I dare say that the general public may in fact start to care about this DRM madness once the joys of needing to do firmware updates on consumer electronics becomes more pervasive. "Honey, I need to reboot the TV so I can re-authenticate with the sound system so I can patch the audio protection scheme so we can hear music again." Sound ridiculous? Tell me, if someone told in you 2000 that you might need to upgrade your TV's firmware to be able to play video games, would you have believed them?


    Pay attention people. This is happening right under your nose.
  2. #2
    DRM as it is currently implemented is just plain bad. It's too complicated and never works the way that the industry hopes it will and in many cases behaves like trojans or virii. Besides, someone will always crack it. Always. I saw somewhere that someone had already cracked the Blue-Ray copy protection. How long has Blue-Ray been out? A month or two?

    The music and movie industries need to stop treating us all like criminals and more like customers.
  3. #3
    More like they need to figure out that people hate payin 8-20 bux to see a movie, in a theatre that smells bad, has shitty staff, talkative people who ruin the experience. These companies are run by idiots who are out of touch with the changing real world.
  4. #4
    Sarge wrote:
    DRM as it is currently implemented is just plain bad. It's too complicated and never works the way that the industry hopes it will and in many cases behaves like trojans or virii. Besides, someone will always crack it. Always. I saw somewhere that someone had already cracked the Blue-Ray copy protection. How long has Blue-Ray been out? A month or two?

    The music and movie industries need to stop treating us all like criminals and more like customers.


    Current DRM often locks you into a particular hardware line, like if you purchase songs from the Apple music site. Until companies can get together and agree on DRM standards that will allow any company to set up a media site and sell tracks that will play on any hardware, it's never going to be fair to consumers. . .and by the time they get to a consensus, the protection will aready be cracked.

    I think the next-gen optical formats will not do as well as CD and DVD did. . .I figure in 5-10 years, our media storage will be in some sort of thumbdrive-like device. . .it took ~5 years to get CD & DVD to each go mainstream, so that leaves kind of a small window for it to take off.
  5. #5
    Make sure you read the article. This goes beyond DRM on a disc. They knew they couldn't keep that safe, so they built DRM into the DVD players, the LCD monitors, the HDMI ports on Televisions. They've pushed it into the whole freaking line trying to control us.

  6. #6
    It was HD-DVD that was cracked. Blue Ray is next I am sure. The first cracked movie that was posted was already was Serenity. I have already read about others but I think it is a "who really cares...."

    What Atomm said is true, it is being put into every device. Things can get even worse with people wanting to use a HTPC to play them like myself. Vista and DRM is going to be a royal pain. If it is a digital connection, analog connections do not seem to have any issues for obvious reasons, Vista has all kinds of DRM built in. If you connect an HD/BR DVD drive and want to play the movies there has to be all kinds of conditions met or the OS will simply shut the signal down. I read an article about it someplace recently, maybe from a link posted here. Anyway I also read other articles about it. What a pain.

    To be honest I am happy the hackers are out there. They will fix all the crap that the DRM will introduce. They figure out ways past all the crap. If I want to play a DVD I purchased, why should I have to go through dozens of this and that just to do it. I will be happy to purchase the DVD's so let me PLAY them on my HTPC. I will probably just use the component outputs for now anyway.

    I personally do not even care about HD DVD's that much at this point. I honestly do not think it is going to be day and night difference to be worth the money right now. I am sure it is better but not a "WOW would you look at that!!!" A lot of people are saying this and only when the price point comes down, so the average consumer can use it, will it finally take off.
  7. #7
    That's the other part of this. If you use a non DRM hardware device, it down samples the image. I have a 42" Mitsubishi with HDMI. If I hook anything DRM related up to it, I will not get HDMI quality because I was an early adopter.

    I'm just fed up.......
  8. #8
    Atomm wrote:
    That's the other part of this. If you use a non DRM hardware device, it down samples the image. I have a 42" Mitsubishi with HDMI. If I hook anything DRM related up to it, I will not get HDMI quality because I was an early adopter.

    I'm just fed up.......



    A classic case of why procrastination pays off in the end. or the Early bird gets the Screw.
  9. #9
    Silent Cold wrote:
    A classic case of why procrastination pays off in the end. or the Early bird gets the Screw.


    And not the "I got to the girl first" kinda screw either. More like the "This is your cell mate Tiny" kinda screw.