Something else to depress and outrage you

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    MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) -- A 13-year-old girl who said she had been raped was stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery by Islamic militants, a human rights group said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/11/01...ref=mpstoryview

    Some people will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century. Yes, I know it's now the 21st century, but if they were even a hundred years behind the civilized world, this shit wouldn't happen.
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    DocJon wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/11/01...ref=mpstoryview

    Some people will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century. Yes, I know it's now the 21st century, but if they were even a hundred years behind the civilized world, this shit wouldn't happen.


    Education is the first thing that will bring a change.
    Need skilled social workers who inform the women first about their body functions. This will help against ancient and senseless practices.
    A slow process but it works when they see that they r gaining health and life quality.
    But it is not the only.
    Watersupply is esential.
    Folks there need to have stable economics. Rising food prices on the intl. markets r leading to more starving.
    Economical instability leads to more corruption i.e.
    What is better for their ppl is to have a "Clan" like system and not a political party system based on our western models. As experience shows it is more efficient and more accessable to their way of thinking, also more effective concerning corruption.

    Organisations like Amnesty Intl., UNICEF, Medicssinfrontiers and a lot of the small private foundations r playing a key role to understand what is happening on site. Each tribe comes with its own culture.

    Geographically seen I am living in Africa only with +or- western standards.
    In summer time each week are arriving about 50 immigrants (alone on the island where I live). Almost always they bring some dehidrated and or close to dead ppl with them. This is a forum, were I could go much more into details, but no its nothing that depresses or outrages me. I was living for a short while in Johannesburg and I know that Africa is diferent. In the same time the most beautiful place I have ever been to.
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    While this is horrid... I do have to say that what we do here is not what others do in their own country's...

    Sometimes it is best for people to not look at what is going on in other areas of the globe as it may make them want to punch a wall or something...

    I am very sorry for the child and the many many more children that face things like this around our planet.
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    ephil wrote:While this is horrid... I do have to say that what we do here is not what others do in their own country's...

    I don't believe everyone should act like me, or conform to my idea of what is proper (except as far as their behavior impinges on other people's life and happiness), but I can't accept some things just because, "It's their way." Stoning a 13-year-old girl to death in front of thousands of people for the crime of being raped easily fits my parenthetical proviso above.

    ephil wrote:Sometimes it is best for people to not look at what is going on in other areas of the globe as it may make them want to punch a wall or something...

    I am very sorry for the child and the many many more children that face things like this around our planet.

    I would hope no one reading this gets so upset they start punching things, but it's important to remember occasionally that the world is not inherently a safe or just place. By and large, the world is as safe and just as you and I make it. It's only by will and mutual agreement that things like this, or worse, don't happen everywhere, every day. We can hope for, and work towards, the day when everyone enjoys a minimum of human rights, a minimum standard of justice. It's not going to happen anytime soon, but just being aware of things like this is a first step.
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    saintchism wrote:Education is the first thing that will bring a change.
    Need skilled social workers who inform the women first about their body functions. This will help against ancient and senseless practices.
    A slow process but it works when they see that they r gaining health and life quality.
    But it is not the only.
    Watersupply is esential.
    Folks there need to have stable economics. Rising food prices on the intl. markets r leading to more starving.
    Economical instability leads to more corruption i.e.
    What is better for their ppl is to have a "Clan" like system and not a political party system based on our western models. As experience shows it is more efficient and more accessable to their way of thinking, also more effective concerning corruption.

    Organisations like Amnesty Intl., UNICEF, Medicssinfrontiers and a lot of the small private foundations r playing a key role to understand what is happening on site. Each tribe comes with its own culture.

    Geographically seen I am living in Africa only with +or- western standards.
    In summer time each week are arriving about 50 immigrants (alone on the island where I live). Almost always they bring some dehidrated and or close to dead ppl with them. This is a forum, were I could go much more into details, but no its nothing that depresses or outrages me. I was living for a short while in Johannesburg and I know that Africa is diferent. In the same time the most beautiful place I have ever been to.

    A well-reasoned post writ well. You can take the rest of the day off, because you've once again left me with nothing to say. 😀
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    DocJon wrote:A well-reasoned post writ well. You can take the rest of the day off, because you've once again left me with nothing to say. 😀


    Reply to post no 49992 see Reply to post no 49992 thread.
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    Doc, remember, Somalia still practices Female Circumsicism. It is not a place that values women.

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    Atomm wrote:Doc, remember, Somalia still practices Female Circumsicism. It is not a place that values women.

    I don't think human life in general has much value to the groups in control in Somalia. If I had thought before I posted, I wouldn't have. To state that something horrible and outrageous is happening in Somalia is roughly equivalent to posting, "Water is wet." Duh.
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    I see it's a Thin Lizzy type of day. 😀