Summing up the whole damn mess

Ha, I hope not. Glad to see this crap over today, tomorrow we can mourn.

At least we finally had to show photoID. I wonder how the folks in the graveyard are going to get around that. ;p

Not in Texas. Voter Registration which does not include a picture was acceptable.

Ha! I've got my barricades and weapons ready just in case of the zombies.

I'm glad that it's almost over. This election has gone seemingly since the last one.

Atomm wrote:Not in Texas. Voter Registration which does not include a picture was acceptable.

I understand that. Sounds clearly logical to me. In no other state but Texas r roaming so much of these vampires and zombies and stuff like them undeads around.
Them and photos.
Ha!
As u know very well there is no bloody fucking way, dude.

saintchism wrote:In no other state but Texas r roaming so much of these vampires and zombies and stuff like them undeads around.

There not zombies - there illegal immigrant mexicans down there in Texas.....

Duck wrote:There not zombies - there illegal immigrant mexicans down there in Texas.....

What evidence u got?
This assertion seems like a false one to me. What makes u so sure?
Ur conclusions r based on that Scott Adams dude; & Gilbert is the name of his what? book - comic strip - wife - heroe - blog - article - left testicle - horse - etc. (not to be continued at that.)

How can anybody just come to such a conclusion? Believing it then is another thing, but as I believe Duck and Sarge r naive, so I do about Lexx now. U tell them sth weird. Zooop and they believe it.
But lets just assume for a moment that´s what it is; Undeads, Zombies and Vampires how the h can anybody give them the permission to go to the elections? And in a state like Texas how is it possible to not show an photo on the ID. I think in the rest of the USA this is aw strictly forbidden. So Atom´s post really made me think a bit...

What evidence u got?

I've lived there.

Duck wrote:I've lived there.

But they r not allowed to vote, so what.

You have no idea - they are allowed to vote, because the bleeding heart liberals allow them to procure state identification cards, state drivers license, sate supported assistance for food, clothing, housing.

All the while not being an American citizen but undocumented ILLEGAL aliens in OUR COUNTRY try to throw them out try to arrest them and they run like roaches to what are called sanctuary cities.
These cities look the other way about there ILLEGAL status, these city's DO NOT deport, these cities do not tell the federal government that thee are ILLEGALS in their city, the ILLEGALS kill, rob and destroy OUR COUNTRY and do not have to worry about the consequences of what we LAW ABIDING citizens have to.

So please don't tell me they can't vote, don't tell me they don't get state supported services, don't tell me that they get favorable status here, they do - and these bleeding hearts just look the other way because they feel these poor ILLEGALS have had a hard life in mexico and we should just raise our taxes just a little bit more and support these poor down trodden vermin

I heard one marcher being interviewed in Dallas Texas saying, “We want our rights.”
What rights do they deserve after breaking the law entering the United States ILLEGALLY? What rights do they deserve in working in this country ILLEGALLY? What rights do they deserve after breaking the law again and getting false social security numbers or stealing legal citizen’s identities?

I saw "From Dusk Til Dawn", they are in fact zombies

And don't get me started about what the census bureau predicts that by 2050 (and at the rate of change 2030) hispanics will be the majority populace in America making White natural born citizens the minority.

Is that really a problem? A country that is made up from immigrants might non-homogenous in race by 2050? O no. I am sure you are 100% Native American and never had any ancestors who immigrated here, that is why you get to decide who can be here and who can't.

....had any ancestors who immigrated here, that is why you get to decide who can be here and who can't.

We did - Legally - Ellis Island. They worked - grew the country - not like roaches under the fence, stealing from others and demanding they get their "equal piece of the pie" because they were not caught breaking MY laws.

So yeah - if you want to look at it your way - I'm a descendant of an immigrant probably just like you are, but my family worked for what they have legally.
So yes I DO get to have a say about who can and can't come here and what support they should receive.
Which should be ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but a swift kick in the balls with steel toes boots (Made in the U.S.A.)

.... and support these poor down trodden vermin

Tell me that this is not true!
That sux big time. Never heard of any european country that lets illeagals vote. Can't make a clue out of your liberals' leys.

Its selfdestructive. Who has the advantage here? The economy? I don't think so. The mexis I talked to in Phx had 3 unqualified jobs to make a living. Descent ppl - US citiezens. Other mexis had no job but always money for them lowriders. I was not even looking at them when anyone was talkin shit passing my convertible.
Personally had a girl friend whose son got shot in the back by a mexican just because he was parking his car too close to his.
The guilty was never sued. Fail of evidence. Testimones said the boy had had a weapon while the weapon of that mex was later found on the premises close to the apartment complex where it happened. Sad sad and weird story.
Sader even because the year before the family lost their father. He died from cancer.
Its those things that does not leave me.
And the european press f them: How come that the european press is so pro liberal? Whenever I watched a documentary about illeagal aliens - the mexican border hoppers were filmed around San Diego aerea mostly - the essence is always: how brutal and inhuman the american system is for them. But they never said one word about illeagals being allowed to vote. I am asking myself: How can ur government justify those high exspenses on border protective measures on one hand and let illeagals vote and support them financially on the other?
&last but not least what is it about them santuary cities. Never heard of them.
All that makes me feel sick. I need a beer.

Yes Bubba I can see a non-homogenous country.
Canary Islands is a good example. But ppl's rights have to be respected. Criminals should be treated like ones. Illeagals should be made legal before they get the right to vote.

Other than that I think its undispensable to diferenciate.
Is a criminal already one by working in the US without permision. Yes he is. But as a consequence to that not only the illeagal employee should be sued but also the employer.
If the market needs those employees though there have to be created legal ways to make that happen. Lots of results here r not ppl made. Its the circumstances.

In germany we had that discussion if Turkey should enter in the European Comunity. As Turkish ley is too antiquated, e.g. allowing predetermined marriage at age of 13, forbidding the practice of catholic religion and their churches in Turkey, even lots of Turkish desendants questioned in surveys voted against the entrance.

Saintchism,

One thing that may not be clear is they vote, but it's not by legal means. They purchase stolen documents that make them seem like US Citizens. Then, they use those documents to vote. There is nothing in place to catch them, so they get away with it.

When I voted, I found it strange that the person next to me in the voting booth could not speak a single word of English. How can someone participate in an election if they can not even understand the predominant language of the country. Oh yea, the ballot was printed in English and Spanish, so it's ok that he couldn't understand the people working the polling station.

How would Germany treat someone who came to the country and didn't even attempt to learn the language, yet expected Germany to provide them with rights and take care of them?

And it's not just Mexicans. It's most Latino countries south of the US Border.

Does our constitution require you speak English to vote? It is not at all uncommon for there to be people who don't speak English in our country. How does that make them inferior citizens? There have been immigrant communities in our country forever. NYC had a strong Russian community where there was no need to learn English. Chinatown in Boston still has no need for English.

As for people who aren't legal voting, it is illegal and I would hope states would start requiring picture ID to vote. I don't and I won't defend that.

I won't say its my thing to live in our country and not learn the language, but I don't see it's wrong.

Haha, what a can of worms to open. I'm sure all of them will get amnesty very soon anyways. Afterall, democrats will need these votes to keep pushing socialism for the next several terms. Lets see how it feels when welfare checks go out to another 20 million people in a couple of years.

I see by the election map that zombies have also overrun FL,NM, and VA. I'm shocked TX made a last stand yesterday... afterall, it really does belong to Mexico, along with AZ and CA.

If it was the illegal immigrants that Obama needed to win, why did he lose tx and ok? And even without FL, NM, and VA he still wins. What is your next excuse.

And I am sure the Democrats are going to lead us astray. I mean imagine a country that is in the midst of two unwinnable wars, against enemies that no one can find, one of which is almost justifiable. In the middle of an economic crysis. headed straight for a depression, god forbid we didn't elect the leaders who brought us here for another four years of this wonderfulness.

Bubba,

I actually do have a problem with someone coming to this country and not at least trying to learn the predominant language. It's how we communicate and the last thing we need are more barriers to divide us.

When my family left Italy to escape Mussolini, they learned English because they wanted to become American Citizens. Sure, they also spoke Italian, but they also learned the language that allowed them to be a participant in this country.

How can we ever learn to be one country if we can not even communicate?

Kind of off topic, but Oklahoma actually enacted some of the toughest Illegal Immigrant laws in the country back when we were looking to Congress to actually accomplish something concerning Illegal Immigration. The law actually worked as many illegal immigrants left the state.

I know I'm going to regret this next statement. (Duck and Lexx just disowned me)

And this may surprise you, but I supported McCains proposal to offer Illegal Immigrants a pathway to Citizenship. I also realize there is no way we can round up 11-21 Million people and just ship them out of the country. To think otherwise is naive. I believe this is the land of opportunity for all people. But if we continue to pussyfoot around on the issue of language, we will continue to have a second class of citizens that will never truly be able to realize the American Dream. Learning English is the gateway to education and knowledge. Knowledge is the gateway to fulfilling the American Dream.

Bubbaspanky wrote:I saw "From Dusk Til Dawn", they are in fact zombies

Well played, sir. I hate you for getting there first. I found this pic last night, and it just tickles me. They delivered with the FAIL - it should have said, "CHAAAAAANGE!!."

Ah its ok Atomm. I never saw any other pathway that could be taken. You have 4 prez's straight plus the congresses that refused to do anything. Both parties thought they could garner the Latino vote. McCain for all his pandering, got stabbed in the back last night.

I agree, english should be the law of the land. I've worked with several immigrant groups and they all have learned english to a degree at least. Its only the illegals that seem to buck common tradition here, probably because they're not preparing for a US citizen test.

This is really unprecedented. Every other mass immigration movement had set limits. Irish, Italian, Russian, Chinese, etc, etc. had strict limits on how many could come, and that was by legal means. This open border bs wouldn't be tolerated in most of the world.

Bubbaspanky wrote:I mean imagine a country that is in the midst of two unwinnable wars, against enemies that no one can find, one of which is almost justifiable. In the middle of an economic crysis. headed straight for a depression, god God forbid we didn't elect the leaders who brought us here for another four years of this wonderfulness.

I have to pinch myself Bubba, we now have a Marxist radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the foot of, worshiped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and in turn been funded politically, promoted and supported by a nexus comprised of black-power anti-white racists, Jew haters, revolutionary Marxists, un-repented former terrorists and Chicago mobsters is now the president of the United States and apparently it’s considered impolite to talk about.
Gee where do we get to go from here?

Bubbaspanky wrote:And I am sure the Democrats are going to lead us astray. I mean imagine a country that is in the midst of two unwinnable wars, against enemies that no one can find, one of which is almost justifiable. In the middle of an economic crysis. headed straight for a depression, god forbid we didn't elect the leaders who brought us here for another four years of this wonderfulness.

Thanks for the update Atom.
It does not change my opinion though.
Feeling that politicians afraid of that immense wave of immigrants takin on the position of victims in front of a Cobra. Hyptnotized. Unable to do their job. Acting almost like in that IBM ad which runs before each National Geograophic Video?(...R we sinking?). Was there not enough time to act? Bah. Doubt that. "Normal" that US citizens r left outdoors.
Worst thing that can happen: start to mangle on eachother now.
Think that one government or the other will not be efficient enough. That's the tooth of the times we r living in where money counts most for the mayority of students. Sure they prefer to enter a big company rather then go into politics. Less money more hassle. I don't want to do their job either.

Hell I am living here, but hate to see what Germany has become. In the 90ies we (group of unorganized bikers) were still together whenever uprisings of solitary extreme groups (e.g. Neo Nazis) were leading into fights, they were handled on site. In the middle of the town. Close to local school or whereever they wanted to meet there were fist fights held and that was it. Afraid at that time now I think it was paradise.

Germany has become a strange place for me. A frequent visitor to my hometown I am traveling often by train. Never experienced first hand but often enough heard it the following day in the news that another woman has been raped by a couple of stranger FUCKS in the train/bus and with all the old ppl and the cowards using public transportation, nobody intervened. (The last victim lost her life on Halloween 26 year old student got stabbed by knives while she tried to enter a train.)
There is no use in talking to the bastards. Even if they understand u they don't want to. The Marocs talking their language, the Turkish theirs, Russians, Polish, Tchechs, Bosnian, Serbian, Palestinians, Libanese learn a little more german but r never the less involved in heavyv crime. When police interrogates them they have forgotten all about it. Good lawyers.

In my opinion yes, if they want their share. There r rights but also obligations. And one should be the language. Its undispensable for understanding and a first step to build up a united country or whatever and awareness as such.

I certainly could not find a job here without speaking spanish. Unregarded this fact there still r enough natives or southamerican immigrants around that spill their disregard towards me, as I am a fucking german. The table has turned.

Duck wrote:I have to pinch myself Bubba, we now have a Marxist radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the foot of, worshiped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and in turn been funded politically, promoted and supported by a nexus comprised of black-power anti-white racists, Jew haters, revolutionary Marxists, un-repented former terrorists and Chicago mobsters is now the president of the United States and apparently it’s considered impolite to talk about.
Gee where do we get to go from here?

Just. . .wow.

Did you click on the wrong bookmark?

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I like chicken.. oh and duck.


Edit:

Oh you have forgotten to mention now that even with these occupational 'wars' that we are supporting through NATO (read: not alone but with international support), the prime one being of course Iraq where we are assisting a country that is vital to the world's economy, and Afghanistan which we are assisting in their fight against terror, while maintaining a nice foothold where a swift strike into a number of nations could/would be feasible. [-ack rambling- nations never do that its not like any other war have we maintained a military presence in the country, like Germany, Korea{though not over}] We are doing this along with supporting all of the other NATO actions with a majority of the military force, barely, though luckily we have been developing weapon systems that allow us to combat these items with relative success as can be measured. Oh but wait we were only truly stressed because of prior democratic movements to cut down the military forces.. and now we get another cutback. And on top of that forward progress for military weapons / capabilities is something Obama just doesn't want to spend any time into. Though he is all for growing the military and seems to have a good opinion about that, but I guess sitting tight in our current tech level is fine. -the man needs to play a few RTS's tech = everything-


But you can ignore everything I said, its just a biast military view who had more hope that the Constitution would be something that is upheld by the future President's of America. BP-1st Comment Luckily America as a great lumbering beast will take many years to fall [here's looking at you Russia], at least I can hope and as such we will keep moving on towards that socialist dream following behind a smooth talking criminal. Lets all go out and 'Spread the Wealth' as Obama is so keen to say.

I luv good music


http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=gipG6jTb1Zs


http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=k8EirMSeT7s

Which reminds me, maybe I should find out a good country to go stash all my money and set up a retirement 'hideout location for'... Panama sounds nice. Last time I was down there it was quite pleasant.

Duck wrote:I have to pinch myself Bubba, we now have a Marxist radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the foot of, worshiped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and in turn been funded politically, promoted and supported by a nexus comprised of black-power anti-white racists, Jew haters, revolutionary Marxists, un-repented former terrorists and Chicago mobsters is now the president of the United States and apparently it’s considered impolite to talk about.
Gee where do we get to go from here?

Marxist-Wrong
Radical- Wrong
supported by black power- Wrong
Chicago Mobsters?? -really??
Former terrorists- Yup he once sat on a board with one, I fear the day I learn what some of the people I have sat on boards with could be linked to.

Finally who said its impolite to talk about?

As for the spreading the wealth comments... it's called regressive tax policy, we have had it for the entire time of all of your lives. Get over it.

But hey, Bush has been so great for our country, I mean all those things he did.... ummm one I can think of was he tried to make it legal for all those illegal immigrants.

Atomm, as for learning the language, I agree the pathway towards success here most likely involves learning the language. It also typically involves going to college and working hard, but we can't make everyone do that. My point is, we have had groups of non english speakers in our country since the beginning. There is no law against it, and nothing wrong with it. I think our country has MUCH MUCH bigger issues than that.

Finally, Silent, I like Duck it's yummy but sometimes too greasy. 😛

saintchism wrote:I luv good music

Were you a middle child? The peacekeeper in the family? 🙂

I like turtles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

Bubbaspanky wrote:Marxist-Wrong
Radical- Wrong
supported by black power- Wrong
Chicago Mobsters?? -really??
Former terrorists- Yup he once sat on a board with one,

Better get used to these allegations. If the press ever falls out of love with nobama the truth will come out. Same things happened with Clinton. All those hushed up allegations turned out to true. The only reason this hack won was because the press and democrats had been hammering Bush for the last 6 years, or do you think 101 NYTs front page articles on Abul Grav<sp> were necessary.

I still think illegal immigration remains the biggest problem this country faces. Whats it going to take, a suicide bomber attacking a fed office in Houston? 100 more rapes by illegals, 1000 more murders, 100,000 more illegals in our prison system?


Besides, Duck is just fine if you roast it in a covered wok with the head attached and served with some good red wine 🙂

I can only hope this means that affirmative action is finally dead now that this douche bag is the HNIC!

Silent Cold wrote:set up a retirement 'hideout location for'... Panama sounds nice. Last time I was down there it was quite pleasant.

Sounds like a very good idea to me, Silent.
And reminds me of the healthy gamer comunity thing Doc is working on.