The end of WWII - September 12 1990

While listening to a pod cast from Oliver North, I heard mention of the 2 + 4 treaty (Two Plus Four) which they talk about the ending of the armistice in Europe and the signed declaration of cessation of hostilities and the reunification of Germany.

Further investigation leads to

http://usa.usembassy.de/etexts/2plusfour8994e.htm

Where in the document:

Recognizing that thereby, and with the unification of Germany as a democratic and peaceful state, the rights and responsibilities of the Four Powers relating to Berlin and to Germany as a whole lose their function;

Represented by their Ministers for Foreign Affairs who, in accordance with the Ottawa Declaration of 13 February 1990, met in Bonn on 5 May 1990, in Berlin on 22 June 1990, in Paris on 17 July 1990 with the participation of the Minister for Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Poland, and in Moscow on 12 September 1990;

(1) The French Republic, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America hereby terminate their rights and responsibilities relating to Berlin and to Germany as a whole. As a result, the corresponding, related quadripartite agreements, decisions and practices are terminated and all related Four Power institutions are dissolved.

(2) The United Germany shall have accordingly full sovereignty over its internal and external affairs.

So according to The United Nations and principal signers WWII Europe was finally closed September 12 1990.

Though that this was a cool find and pass it along.

I was stationed in West Germany and worked the Berlin Brigade in 1984 - 1989.....
Does that make me a WWII Vet?

I knew you were old Duck... But a WWII vet, damn!!

Cool find

That is something that I did not know. Very cool.

Hrmm I was in Illesheim at the time.. interesting...

What's really scary about this is the fact that this could apply to all the wars since as well. That means in 2050, we will still be in Iraq. Sheesh.

Also, aren't we technically still occupying Japan? Last I remember, Japan wasn't allowed to mass an army and we were their protectors. Has this changed?

Atomm wrote:What's really scaring about this is the fact that this could apply to all the wars since as well. That means in 2050, we will still be in Iraq. Sheesh.

Also, aren't we technically still occupying Japan? Last I remember, Japan wasn't allowed to mass an army and we were their protectors. Has this changed?

We used to own Okinawa but are giving it back to the Okinawan people piece by piece.. we now only hold a few bases, we recently ~2005 gave back another large chunk. I believe we are actually right now arming the Japanese Navy, in fact they are the first ally to successfully demonstrate anti-missile technology ala-Patriot missile systems that we have given them/trained them. Basically learning them on how to make and employ AEGIS cruisers. There was even a scandal over their handling of some classified materials with their regular training camps.

As far as wars the Korean war is still active/in a state of war we are still just holding a cease fire agreement, no major peace has been declared. It is one of the few [read: only] places that the military is allowed to employ live landmines/fields for training exercises for any duration. Normally its just arm the mine disarm the mine c4/destroy the mine.

I don't know if the Japanese have a ground based or air based military, though I wouldn't doubt if they had air due to their need to protect themselves/national pride from the Chinese.

They do have a small air force. There was an article a few months back that Mitsubishi was creating the first new Zero since WWII. Supposedly, Japan wants F-22's, but we won't let them have them, so they are making their own equivalent.

I read that too somewhere. I'm sure that they will be faster, lighter and more effecient. We should have just given them ours and had them build us new ones. LOL