Major spoilage to continuePaladin wrote:
I did not really like the T actor all that much. referred as simply the T from here out as I am unsure what model he is.
It was not horrible but his part just seem to be there in the background, not really played up and tense like you would think. Like a secondary character that did not matter much.
I am unsure on the FBI guy. What does he not believe when the kids all spotted the guy with the metal leg.
His character just seems plopped in to have an a human antagonist.
How did all the cops arrive at the school so fast? then when the T started shooting he tore bullets through the police cars and should have take Sara out easily. She just ducks and reaches under where bullets just shot. That entire scene was kind of lame to me.
Also why would the T sit in class pretending to be a teacher and go through the roster like that. He usually would just storm in, point the gun asking for Reese and (or not even ask) then shoot. He does not care about collateral damage. Why would he care about hiding a gun in his leg when he could have simply had it in a briefcase or under the papers he carried. Lame.
What was with the bank vault?? At first I thought, oh they somehow sent people back to build it and store it there okay but A) it was in 1963 and that gun looked a lot more modern but they are from the future but 😎 would the isotope be okay after all that time like that?
Then she pulls out all of those drawers and there is a working computer there just waiting for her all booted up for 40+ years?? Also those graphics on screen would not be there for a computer that old, it would be text ASCII based at the max. Come on they ha to work with 1963 technology, they did not have retinal scanners back then.
I am all for disbelief in a show but as I discussed in the past with friends. "A show or movie has to be real within its own realm." So sure the T series android is believable but do not point back to weapons created in 1963 using technology from that era and expect me to believe it when it is way out of wack.
Look at the Star Trek episode "The City on the Edge of Forever" that is said to be the best ST episode by many, me not one of them. Anyway Spock had to fix the tricorder with parts from that era and they did it right. He had tubes and simple circuits, it took him a long time to do it and was attached to a modern device. that was done correctly.
With that all said they go from 1999 to 2007?? What was that about? Why jump 8 years?
I kind of liked Cameron's part but one thing I did not care for was she acted totally human when he first met her but then after she was known to be a T she acted robotic. Tilting her head weird etc... COME ON it is in your programming, act normal!!! 🙂
I will stop now. I will say I liked it all in all and will watch it. 🙂
The FBI guy is fine, for now. He's a new character, and we're gonna get to see him grow and learn that there are more things going on than some terrorist woman and child team running around. He's got overwhelming eyewitness accounts that the shooter had a robotic leg. He knows Sarah Conner's paranoid delusions about machines taking over the world. Allow the show to develop the characters and see if he begins to put 1+1 together.
I thought the T was just fine. He IS a secondary character, merely a plot device to drive the show. The focus is on the three characters on the run. We're never gonna get much interaction or motivation from him. Reese gave all the character background we'll ever get for the T in the first movie.
Acting like a teacher works just fine for me. He probably abducted, tortured, and killed the real teacher to get the info he wanted. The teacher might have resisted giving out the specific into the T needed to walk in and do the hit(protecting the student, figuring he was going to die no matter what), so he strode into the school, went straight to the classroom and had minimal interaction in order to determine who his target was. He used infiltration tactics, something that is basic to his model..
The gun was hidden in his leg when HE WENT THRU TIME, to get around that problem they introduced in the first terminator movie: They can't bring back weapons through, as they're not flesh. Only flesh can go back. Ah-nold could go back because he was covered in flesh. This is a fan-wanked convention/question since the first T movie. I've seen comic books that demonstrate the weapon being hidden in the T's body. Why it was a simple firearm and not something really cool, I don't know. Maybe they figured that would be enough to kill one person if the T couldn't get within arm's length.
I never understood how the shape-shifting T's can go through time - that's a huge-ass plot hole from the second and third movie.
The terminators were programmed to infiltrate. I'm willing to believe they have better people skills than has been shown. A series will, by necessity, show things in more detail, and have many more situations to explore. I dunno how long Cameron was in place before John got the the school. If it was just a day or 2, keeping up the charade would be fairly easy - she's the new girl, shy, maybe a bit strange. I would image a longer deception would be difficult.
I guess Cameron has some mimicking ability, able to take on certain personas for short periods (it's that infiltrating thing again), but I suppose we can equate that with an actor's "acting". They put it on as needed, but don't do it all the time. Yeah, it's a robot, it could stay in the identity indefinitely, I understand that. The Cameron character is not a teenage girl, so I guess the writers, director, and actress made the decision to play her a certain way to remind us of this.
The technology MIGHT have been quite up to the task in 1960's, but we didn't know how to do it. The weapon she used appeared to have a chemical base to form the energy necessary. They were able to take existing substances and apply their future tech knowledge to them. I agree, however, it would've been more believable had they made the date 1973, when transistors were really hitting the consumer market.
Why jump 8 years? The main reason is they wanted to characters to be a certain age, but they wanted to set it in the present day. It avoids hundreds of little problems per episode, like "That car in the background wasn't made before 2002!" Hats off to them for being so careful with the existing timeline to not simply introduce the show in 2007. If they are that careful with that, I have high expectations for the future of this show.
Ostensibly, the show jumped them in time to thoroughly throw off the T's. In history, they suddenly disappear for 8 years. I don't necessarily buy that (the first thing they do in 2007 is get photographed by a cell-phone and make the news, which would screw over 1000 years of "Where are they?"), but I'm willing to go along with it because it's a necessary contrivance to get them to modern-day, plus, it was a cool scene!
The computers looked old. It's story-telling shorthand, enough for the audience to understand it is an OLD computer. That was enough for the show. If you were to show something like an old Altair, most ppl wouldn't even understand that as a computer. Plus, it added a, "Hey, they did pretty damn good for 1963" aspect to it. It shows that the ppl from the future are pretty damn resourceful, which had been established in the first movie.
Spock was transported back in time to the 1930's. IMO, they didn't do it right - they made far too easy for him - it only took him a couple weeks. Cameron explained that it took the person sent back to the 60's 8 months to do this, and one would assume the person was well-versed in exactly this task.